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re: The vocal minority tries to make Disney princess a lesbian

Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:07 pm to
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as if she was also acting like a man.


yea elsa definitely doesnt act like a man

she finally decides to utilize the world-altering power and whats one of the first things she does?

she makes herself a new dress
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:11 pm to
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Of course, it is about being different. That same theme has been used COUNTLESS times in other works and will continue to be used. I just find it crazy that we're going to designate this story as the one where being different = gay.

It's more than her just being different.
1. Just listen to the lyrics of let it go. It's littered with expressions associated with coming out. As is the rest of the movie
2. Disney has been extremely pro-pay for many years now. They host gay pride events at their parks every year
3. How many princess movies have you seen where the princess has no male love interest? Like someone else mentioned, it's unlikely that they'll straight up have a character in a gay relationship but I find it pretty unlikely that it's just a coincidence Elsa had no romantic involvement with any guy
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:15 pm to
Too bad Disney doesn't just cater to Americans and majority of the world agrees that homosexuality isn't right.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:20 pm to
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How many princess movies have you seen where the princess has no male love interest?


Brave
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:21 pm to
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3. How many princess movies have you seen where the princess has no male love interest?


Where could you have realistically put one in this story that would have made sense?

Look, I know what you're saying because those same things have been said about this movie before, but I just can't make the leap from gay song, Elsa doesn't have a male love interest to Elsa = lesbian.

The people who originally purported that idea were crazed evangelicals and pastors. The fact that it has stuck with some people is a bit unbelievable.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:25 pm to
Meh. They'll clamor for a gay Disney princess but it won't stop there. They will applaud when the day comes, and then they will want gay princes. Then when they get their way, they will want trans princes and princesses. And from there? I don't really know.

But what is clear is that certain people would rather push their agendas any way possible, even it means hijacking beloved Disney cartoons that are solely made to entertain children...and some special adult I guess.

Edit: I guess what I'm saying is a gay character in a cartoon wouldn't bother me if it fit and made sense in the scheme of the story; not just one forced into the picture to appease the ever-vocal minority.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 3:26 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:26 pm to
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Too bad Disney doesn't just cater to Americans and majority of the world agrees that homosexuality isn't right.


Yeah you're right. And a large majority of the world also thinks the appropriate punishment for it is being stoned to death. Doesn't make that right in the end.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:27 pm to
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Look, I know what you're saying because those same things have been said about this movie before, but I just can't make the leap from gay song, Elsa doesn't have a male love interest to Elsa = lesbian.


Using their logic, Sword in the Stone was a big gay movie. I mean, no romantic interest. The main character experiments with being different things with an older man, is abused by his father and brother for being different.

Then there's the whole Sword in the Stone imagery...


Obviously that all means Arthur (what a queer name) is a big Poofter.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:29 pm to
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Using their logic, Sword in the Stone was a big gay movie. I mean, no romantic interest. The main character experiments with being different things with an older man, is abused by his father and brother for being different.


Using my logic, can you find any subtexts to it in the way I did?
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:33 pm to
The shooting ice is a symbol of empowerment for hopeless lesbians.

The giant snowman is a symbol of the protective wall that gays and lesbians are forced to create to protect their dignity.

Am I right? Is that how you do it? I could make every single emotion in every film ever made into gaysplanation if that is the case.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5923 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:35 pm to
Disney knows where their money comes from, and it isn't the LGBT movement.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18563 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:37 pm to
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but I just can't make the leap from gay song, Elsa doesn't have a male love interest to Elsa = lesbian.


its not just "let it go" though

i think "Do you want to build a snowman" is an even clearer sign that she's lesbian

Cleary she wants nothing to do with the...

snowMAN

sNOwMAN

NO MAN

boom

les
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:37 pm to
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Yeah you're right. And a large majority of the world also thinks the appropriate punishment for it is being stoned to death. Doesn't make that right in the end.



There is no need for a radical compromise. Disney doesn't have to show a character get stoned to death as punishment and the majority of the world will be fine just fine as long as the character is punished or experiences karma in some way. So I'm not sure what your point is.

I'm not sure why your vehemently defending Disney making a gay movie either. That's quite disturbing. You don't need to transform kid's mind thinking they should/can experience gay shite when they aren't gay. That's a whole different level of fricked up.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:37 pm to
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Disney knows where their money comes from, and it isn't the LGBT movement.


That is true, but they do seem to be the ones who whine the loudest about the stupidest little things.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135032 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:39 pm to
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Using my logic, can you find any subtexts to it in the way I did?


Easily.

Just like Sleeping Beauty is about Date Rape, Song Of the South is about Apartheid and Steamboat Willie is about the Armenian Genocide
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:44 pm to
It's true. The Prince definitely did not have sleeping beauty's consent before kissing her.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79646 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:46 pm to
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Steamboat Willie is about the Armenian Genocide


You lost me on this one.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:47 pm to
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Just like Sleeping Beauty is about Date Rape, Song Of the South is about Apartheid and Steamboat Willie is about the Armenian Genocide




When I saw the Princess in the Frog, I enjoyed it, but I couldn't help but think there are probably some people, some where, who are offended by this in some way. I didn't have any personal feelings one way or the other, but given the races involved, I figured there were people who wanted the movie to do more and people who wanted it to do less. That is the only time I've ever seen a Disney animated movie and had even an inkling of thought about an in-depth societal theme.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:55 pm to
Are you motherfrickers really over analyzing a damn kids movie??

While I seriously doubt they'll even come close to touching on it. They may leave something left to the imagination which is exactly what is happening right now..

Also are queers and donut bumpers not satisfied with Timon and Pumba?? shite they adopted and African kid and raised him...
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64548 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:56 pm to
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When I saw the Princess in the Frog, I enjoyed it, but I couldn't help but think there are probably some people, some where, who are offended by this in some way.


There were. They were serious criticisms about why a major black character had to spend so much time as a frog and not as an actual black woman.
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