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The shooter was seen on the roof for multiple minutes before the shooting

Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:03 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:03 pm
This video is WILD. It’s amazing how much time they had to prevent this. It is mind numbing. Please don’t move this as I beleive this should be posted on both boards in its own thread

Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:05 pm to
This is not looking good for SS or Local Leo. How will they spin it?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
55832 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:05 pm to
Oh boy
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
53147 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:05 pm to
The video actually pisses me off more than I already am.

How is it that nothing was done?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36405 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:06 pm to
Just mind blowing incompetence. This guy wasn’t even trying to be stealthy, he was clumsily inching his way on the roof with everyone seeing him and pointing him out. Anyone could have just engaged him and shot him from the ground.

How does not one LEO get a radio to get Trump down and off the stage in all of that time?

I hope the families of the man dead and those critically injured find peace because this would enrage me to no end.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:09 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:06 pm to
I truly can’t wrap my head around that video. That isn’t “it all happened so fast”

That’s a fricking lifetime.
Posted by TJack
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Member since Dec 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:06 pm to
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The video actually pisses me off more than I already am. How is it that nothing was done?


Same here. Like f&cking amateurs!
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13620 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:07 pm to
Old baws and bawettes are yelling and pointing,
He’s on the roof, right there”,
and nothing happens.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 9:38 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:08 pm to
Even if you don’t shoot him simply using your radio to get Trump off stage. There was MINUTES!
Posted by RougeWinger
Member since Jul 2024
101 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:08 pm to
Confusion and miscommunication. It's the Swiss Cheese model of accidents.
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5261 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:09 pm to
Sorry that made no sense
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:11 pm
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Confusion and miscommunication. It's the Swiss Cheese model of accidents.


This was not an accident.

ETA: this was constructive ineptness.


“I can see a conversation where one says, how much detail can we strip to make Trump vulnerable. Because it’s for democracy. Then it happens and they are surprised? No, just mad shooter missed.”

ETA: defund Leo was and has been the mantra for dems but what?
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:26 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31444 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:10 pm to
Not a good look for the secret service or the cop who had a chance to be a MAJOR frickING HERO

this is a colossal fail on so many accounts
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21153 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:11 pm to
Complete failure by SS
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86696 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:12 pm to
The worst part isn’t that they don’t respond quickly enough. It’s that there should have been a sniper there from the start and/or protection around the building since it’s about the only known vantage point to do something like that. It’s a downright failure of the SS.
Posted by RougeWinger
Member since Jul 2024
101 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:12 pm to
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This was not an accident.


Of course not. It was a deliberate act by the shooter. Multiple people screwed up and miscommunicated leading to the confusion which resulted in the shooter being able to take a shot at Trump. If only one of those mistakes doesn't happen then they catch this guy before he's ever a threat.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13620 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

Confusion and miscommunication. It's the Swiss Cheese model of accidents.

That doesn’t happen on presidential Secret Service details. That whole area is locked down and the every peripheral movement is expected and coordinated….
except in this case.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103982 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:13 pm to
Oh I agree. The fact they allowed a building only 130 yards away not to be guarded is the biggest joke, but this dude just climbing like a jackass being seen by everyone is such a bad look for SS

Posted by RougeWinger
Member since Jul 2024
101 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

That doesn’t happen on presidential Secret Service details. That whole area is locked down and the every peripheral movement is expected and coordinated….
except in this case.


Well I doubt anyone of us here knows exactly what happens on Secret Service presidential details, not to mention the fact that this wasn't a presidential security detail. It was detail for a former president, which I'm willing to bet doesn't get the assets of an actual Presidential detail.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49073 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:16 pm to
Preventable in so many ways. Unreal.
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