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re: The Radium Girls — still glowing in their coffins
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:44 am to CaptainsWafer
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:44 am to CaptainsWafer
What teeth she had left. Many of the girls had most of their teeth falling out randomly.
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:51 am to CaptainsWafer
Not nearly the same, but my dad tells stories about playing with mercury as a kid. He said they would hold it in their hands and pass it around the classroom. Little did they know.....
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:55 am to supadave3
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Not nearly the same, but my dad tells stories about playing with mercury as a kid. He said they would hold it in their hands and pass it around the classroom. Little did they know.....
Wait. That's bad? I did that as a kid in school.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:04 am to lsunurse
Radium-226 is an alpha. Not some beta like Radium-228.
Sorry, not sorry for the bad chemistry joke.
Luckily with Radium-226 almost all radiation emitted is alpha radiation which cannot penetrate skin or clothes and is only hazardous if ingested or inhaled.
Sorry, not sorry for the bad chemistry joke.
Luckily with Radium-226 almost all radiation emitted is alpha radiation which cannot penetrate skin or clothes and is only hazardous if ingested or inhaled.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:09 am to bengalbait
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e how careless and cruel workers were treated in the past.
not to set off a TD nuke here, but that's also the precise reason that labor unions were formed
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:12 am to Darth_Vader
I worked with Radioactive Materials for nearly 20 years. This is the usual case study for Radiation Biology and is certainly among the more fascinating incidents.
Other good ones are the Marshall Islanders after the US atomic bomb testing in the Pacific. The US failed to consider wind direction and they were exposed to a tremendous amount of fallout. Obviously, the atomic bomb survivors are a good one too.
There was also a study done which was somewhat comical. A scientist was looking to analyze the effects of radiation on sperm. He devised what amounted to a commode where the individuals would sit and then their testicles were exposed to x-ray radiation. The long-term goal was to establish whether or not this would cause birth defects.
As you might expect it was difficult to find people willing to participate in the experiment. So the only group he found was actually prison inmates in Alabama if I remember correctly. He would bribe them to participate using things like cigarettes. Because they were prisoners many of which had life sentences this made the study difficult to complete as most of them are not breeding.
More recently, a teenager in Michigan created a small nuclear reactor in his backyard using every day household items like radium watch dials, lantern mantles and parts from smoke detectors. They wrote a book about him called the Atomic Boy Scout. A fascinating read. There are a few pics of him covered in radiation induced burns.
Other good ones are the Marshall Islanders after the US atomic bomb testing in the Pacific. The US failed to consider wind direction and they were exposed to a tremendous amount of fallout. Obviously, the atomic bomb survivors are a good one too.
There was also a study done which was somewhat comical. A scientist was looking to analyze the effects of radiation on sperm. He devised what amounted to a commode where the individuals would sit and then their testicles were exposed to x-ray radiation. The long-term goal was to establish whether or not this would cause birth defects.
As you might expect it was difficult to find people willing to participate in the experiment. So the only group he found was actually prison inmates in Alabama if I remember correctly. He would bribe them to participate using things like cigarettes. Because they were prisoners many of which had life sentences this made the study difficult to complete as most of them are not breeding.
More recently, a teenager in Michigan created a small nuclear reactor in his backyard using every day household items like radium watch dials, lantern mantles and parts from smoke detectors. They wrote a book about him called the Atomic Boy Scout. A fascinating read. There are a few pics of him covered in radiation induced burns.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:18 am to Napoleon
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We need some government regulation. People who want everything 100% deregulated have no concept of the history of the working class.
I swear sometimes I think company stores could be advocated and some people would go for it.
One hospital system in Houston, Memorial Herman, has only one insurance option. Their own insurance. It is no cheaper and no better than any other. Worse in some cases. It's only one item but it is similar to a company store and it is a huge item.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:19 am to Darth_Vader
Honestly had no idea that radium was used to make the clock dials glow.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:25 am to atxfan
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Honestly had no idea that radium was used to make the clock dials glow.
used in emergency exit signs in older airliners
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:25 am to Darth_Vader
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it just came out in his hand along with a chunk of her jaw bone

Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:26 am to atxfan
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Honestly had no idea that radium was used to make the clock dials glow.
Still being used to this day.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:40 am to Darth_Vader
Interesting article. I've never heard about this until now.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:40 am to wiltznucs
What about Fluoroscopes used in shoe stores in the 40-70's. Any one could put their feet in the thing and zap it with radiation never thinking it would cause problems. Hell in my own profession dentists in the 1920's on, would focus their radiology beams using their thumbs on X ray plates multiple times a day. Many of these guys lost not just their thumbs but significant portions of their hands as well.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:41 am to wiltznucs
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Still being used to this day.
Outlawed in 1968??
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:51 am to bengalbait
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As much as I deplore governmental regulatory intrusion into our lives it just goes to prove how careless and cruel workers were treated in the past.
Don't go too far with that.
What it really demonstrates is that a large part of the safety regulations we have today are because lots of people were killed due to ignorance. People simply didn't know any better.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:04 am to Darth_Vader
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If the girls blew their noses, their handkerchiefs glowed
Posted on 5/9/17 at 12:44 pm to lsunurse
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They thought radium was practically harmless.
The medical applications of radionuclides for treating things like tumors were noticed before the harm that ionizing radiation could do to healthy tissue was understood. As a result, many people thought exposure to radium was always beneficial.
It wasn't just used to make glowing watch dials and night lights. They used to put it in tonic water, toothpaste, and and even very popular beauty cremes like "Tho-Radia" whose print ads are fascinating to look at in hindsight.
As far as I know, the concentration of radium in these products was very low, so they likely only resulted in an increased risk of cancer and not the kind of truly gruesome radiation poisoning that the radium girls suffered. But the reason the radium concentrations were low was simply to keep costs down, not because they were worried about its effects.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:02 pm to Darth_Vader
Downloaded 2 days ago. Up next to read.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:03 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Outlawed in 1968??
Sorry, should have been more explicit. Still used in medical implants to treat certain tumors. Although brachytherapy seems to be a dying industry.
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