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The Promotion That Comes Without the Pay Raise
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:14 pm
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More workers are facing the same dilemma: How do you respond when your boss offers you a nice new title, without a nice new raise to match? Some 39% of employers often hand out promotions without a pay raise, up from 22% in 2011, according to a recent survey of 300 employers by the staffing firm OfficeTeam. Many employees are left wondering whether to swallow their resentment and accept the news, or push back for more money. A smart response requires taking stock of pay practices at your company, figuring out what’s in it for you and making a well-informed decision.
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:15 pm to RedRifle
depends on if you can use this new title to help get a job at a better company
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:16 pm to MorbidTheClown
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depends on if you can use this new title to help get a job at a better company
This is the question to ask. Swallow the resentment and immediately send out resumes if current company tells you to kick rocks or take the title bump.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:17 pm to RedRifle
I was in that situation in the early 2000s. My employer was scrambling to retain talent and had no money to use as a sweetener, so they started handing out titles.
The new titles must have looked good on resumes. I had a new job soon after.
The new titles must have looked good on resumes. I had a new job soon after.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:18 pm to RedRifle
Hey good news! You are promoted to manager. You will not receive a raise but we feel that we are giving you an opportunity to make your resume look better.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:19 pm to RedRifle
This has been going on for awhile.....20-somethings getting the title of VP but no more money. This has fricked up the whole system.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:19 pm to OweO
I'd politely refuse and then look for another job. That's not an employer I'd work for.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:21 pm to hashtag
That's what they like to call a "lateral move" in my company
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:24 pm to RedRifle
This happened to me back in April. I accepted the promotion and waited a month to ask if more money came with the new responsibilities. I was told it was performance based. After 6 months I would be evaluated to see if I earned more money. I'll know in about 6 weeks if I get a raise or find a new job.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:24 pm to hashtag
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I'd politely refuse
Why? You may as well take the new title so you have a better looking resume.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:25 pm to MorbidTheClown
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depends on if you can use this new title to help get a job at a better company
Exactly - but the difficulty lies in explaining why your minimal time with the new title qualifies you for the better job during the interview process.
Might require sucking it up for ~6 months so you have a case.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:27 pm to Tubedog13
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This happened to me back in April. I accepted the promotion and waited a month to ask if more money came with the new responsibilities. I was told it was performance based. After 6 months I would be evaluated to see if I earned more money. I'll know in about 6 weeks if I get a raise or find a new job.
Who the frick accepts a job or promotion without talking money first?
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:27 pm to RedRifle
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Many employees are left wondering whether to swallow their resentment and accept the news, or push back for more money.
A large reason for the "wage gap".
Men push back. Women are more agreeable and just take it.
Generally speaking.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:27 pm to RedRifle
Put that new title on the resume and immediately put out applications. The employer obviously doesn’t care about your wellbeing. Company loyalty doesn’t mean shite anymore.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:28 pm to RedRifle
this happened to me back in june. I'm learning a lot so I'm not saying anything right now. I graduate in December, hopefully they will do something then because i like it here.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:29 pm to TH03
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Who the frick accepts a job or promotion without talking money first?
You don’t really get a choice. Either take it or be replaced. Owners and management don’t care about employees. They are just means to an end.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:30 pm to RedRifle
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A smart response requires taking stock of pay practices at your company, figuring out what’s in it for you, asking your e-friends on TigerDroppings, and making a well-informed decision.
Truth.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:30 pm to DeafJam73
You can still ask beforehand instead of the guy who waits a month to ask if he gets any bump in pay. That’s just absurd to me.
What are my new responsibilities? What is my new pay? Those should be your first questions, not a month later.
What are my new responsibilities? What is my new pay? Those should be your first questions, not a month later.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:32 pm to DustyDinkleman
quote:I don't need a new title to improve my resume. I've been offered a job at every place that I've ever interviewed. It doesn't help me in any way. And I'm not one to pretend that I'm okay with stuff when I'm not.
Why? You may as well take the new title so you have a better looking resume
Why should I accept that and let my employer think it's acceptable to treat employees that way?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:33 pm to Displaced
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Women are more agreeable and just take it.
Generally speaking.
Is that you, trillhog?
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