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Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:14 am to therick711
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but Oswald was the only shooter that fired that day.
literally impossible with what we know today
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:08 am to monsterballads
Dulles, Angleton, generals Walker and Willoughby and HL hunt. With LBJ in the know and looking the other way. With assistance of mafia to facilitate. You’re welcome.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 11:12 am
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:12 am to monsterballads
I'm seeking illumination not argument. Is that overstated? I don't believe it is literally impossible based on current knowledge. I still allow for the possibility of multiple shooters, but my best guess is Oswald was the only person who shot JFK.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:26 am to therick711
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I'm seeking illumination not argument
For your illumination, one of the SS men on detail that day has come forward recently with big time information thar casts doubt on the single bullet theory (which was already implausible). Plenty more on this, even the mainstream outlets are running with it.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ex-secret-service-agents-account-of-jfks-assassination-casts-doubt-on-lone-gunman-theory-180982998/
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:37 am to Kafka
LBJ did it so that they could usher in the welfare state and destroy america.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:37 am to thejuiceisloose
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I don't understand the right wing adoration for Kennedy, I mean medicare was his idea.
Adoration is not why people are interested in getting to the truth about the assassination. The fact that it happened, means that it can and most likely will happen again, especially since it was successfully covered up.
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As far as the conspiracy goes we cannot claim that gov and gov agencies are wholly incompetent and also claim they successfully assassinated the president and it's never come to light.
The UFO stuff should teach you that compartmentalization works. We are talking about certain compartmentalized players within government agencies who know what actually happened, many of whom are now dead. Even with all the documents released we will probably never know exactly what happened. The evidence of a conspiracy within the government lies in the way evidence, documents, and information were handled in the investigation itself.
My opinion has always been that Oswald was a shooter, but there was at least one more in the buildings directly behind the Presidential limo. Grassy knoll was a smokescreen to get people looking that way, rather than behind the motorcade where the kill shot came from.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:49 am to Kafka
What do folks here think about the SS agent George Hickey accidental AR-15 kill shot theory?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:51 am to troyt37
I once read a book written by a former detective who purportedly interviewed a Detroit hit man who said he did the job. He said he was in the building across the street from the Depository.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:11 pm to Knuckle Checker
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Now have someone push you in the head from behind and let us know if your head goes backwards at all.
MythBusters did a recreation and they actually got a model head to react like is depicted in the video
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:16 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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I once read a book written by a former detective who purportedly interviewed a Detroit hit man who said he did the job. He said he was in the building across the street from the Depository.
Taken literally, that would be all the way across Dealy Plaza on Commerce, which is still possible, but not very plausible. The Dal-Tex building or the county building directly behind Kennedy are much more likely, IMO.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:18 pm to Corso
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What do folks here think about the SS agent George Hickey accidental AR-15 kill shot theory?
Would have been witnessed by hundreds to thousands of eyes, and every camera would have a shot of it happening. Not a chance it went down like that and stayed under wraps.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:27 pm to troyt37
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every camera would have a shot of it happening
What cameras though? There are only a handful of pictures from the entire event and one amateur video
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Would have been witnessed by hundreds to thousands of eyes
After the first couple of shots most people hit the ground and were either not watching at all or were looking up at the book depository. If anything gunshots ringing out from above would explain why nobody was watching the JFK car and definitely not watching the car behind it
I'm not saying I believe this is what happened, it's just always been an interesting theory to me
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:31 pm to Corso
I always post this on these threads....
When I was in school at LSU in 90's I worked at a department store. My manager attended SMU when JFK was killed. He told me a story once that the night of the assassination he and some buddies were in a diner downtown. It was them and only one other customer sitting in a booth. Back then they had evening papers and one of his friends had one that they were reading about what had happened, they were hard to find copies. The other diner walked over and asked if he could look at the classifieds, they gave them to him. He took them and few minutes later brought them back. Few minutes later he came back and asked for it again....he did this like 3 times. The last time he told them thank you and that if they were ever downtown to come be a guest at his club...it was Jack Ruby. Curious if he was looking for instructions in the classifieds.
When I was in school at LSU in 90's I worked at a department store. My manager attended SMU when JFK was killed. He told me a story once that the night of the assassination he and some buddies were in a diner downtown. It was them and only one other customer sitting in a booth. Back then they had evening papers and one of his friends had one that they were reading about what had happened, they were hard to find copies. The other diner walked over and asked if he could look at the classifieds, they gave them to him. He took them and few minutes later brought them back. Few minutes later he came back and asked for it again....he did this like 3 times. The last time he told them thank you and that if they were ever downtown to come be a guest at his club...it was Jack Ruby. Curious if he was looking for instructions in the classifieds.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:38 pm to Corso
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What cameras though? There are only a handful of pictures from the entire event and one amateur video
Cameras
This is just the ones they knew about.
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After the first couple of shots most people hit the ground and were either not watching at all or were looking up at the book depository.
The ones who hit the ground that early are most likely men who had been shot at. The general public wouldn't have even registered them as gunshots that soon. They were just beginning to react when Kennedy's head exploded.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:43 pm to Kafka
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just a patsy!
Correct.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:19 pm to Kafka
Oswald bought the rifle under the alias Hidell.
Marina took the famous photos of Oswald holding the rifle.
Oswald tried to kill Walker several months before JFK.
He left Marina written instructions on what to do if he was captured.
Oswald got the job at the Depository through a coffee visit Marina and Ruth had with a neighbor.
Oswald left his ring and cash on the dresser in Marina's bedroom the morning of the assassination.
No Depository employees could account for where Oswald was during the shooting.
He brought a package of "curtain rods" to work that day. No curtain rods were ever found, his rifle was though, with his print on it.
He fit the description of the sniper given by eyewitness across the street.
He was the only Depository employee unaccounted for after the assassination. He left and picked up his pistol at his boarding house.
He shot Tippit in cold blood.
Maybe there was a conspiracy, that would only require one more person, but Oswald is definitely guilty and not a patsy. Besides all of the hard evidence against him his own brother Robert talked with him at the jail and has no doubt Lee did it. When the police went to Ruth's house afterwards and found the blanket that Marina believed still contained the rifle and it did not, she knew.
Commence with the down votes, let's hear the real facts, it was LBJ, it was Marcello, etc. , etc., etc......
Marina took the famous photos of Oswald holding the rifle.
Oswald tried to kill Walker several months before JFK.
He left Marina written instructions on what to do if he was captured.
Oswald got the job at the Depository through a coffee visit Marina and Ruth had with a neighbor.
Oswald left his ring and cash on the dresser in Marina's bedroom the morning of the assassination.
No Depository employees could account for where Oswald was during the shooting.
He brought a package of "curtain rods" to work that day. No curtain rods were ever found, his rifle was though, with his print on it.
He fit the description of the sniper given by eyewitness across the street.
He was the only Depository employee unaccounted for after the assassination. He left and picked up his pistol at his boarding house.
He shot Tippit in cold blood.
Maybe there was a conspiracy, that would only require one more person, but Oswald is definitely guilty and not a patsy. Besides all of the hard evidence against him his own brother Robert talked with him at the jail and has no doubt Lee did it. When the police went to Ruth's house afterwards and found the blanket that Marina believed still contained the rifle and it did not, she knew.
Commence with the down votes, let's hear the real facts, it was LBJ, it was Marcello, etc. , etc., etc......
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:41 pm to JackDempsey
All true, but none of that precludes there being a conspiracy and other shooters. Oswald almost certainly shot at, and possibly shot the president. Not for one second do I think he just got the bright idea one day, which means others were involved, ;ie conspiracy.
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