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re: The new training facility on Burbank that they were building collapsed.

Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3141 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:40 pm to
Lack of temp bracing or putting the required cable xbracing in. I've seen this happen many times.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8070 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:47 pm to
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A lot of these metal buildings use that color paint as a final coat. They'll never admit it but one reason is that it hides rust very well. At worst, if it is actual rust, it is likely surface rust that will not worse once protected from the elements.



This is standard red oxide primer. Indoors it can be a the finish coat but it's certainly not finished paint.

You'll see more and more plants that moved to grey primer nowadays. Walmart changed that entire industry by ordering so many grey roof trusses that many fabricators switched over to grey primer.

But yeah if you don't pay any extra you generally get plain old red oxide primer.
Posted by TDHELPCENTER
Member since Nov 2022
226 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:49 pm to
Just the one will suffice
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4618 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:01 pm to
Better now than later.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72571 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:07 pm to
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It's pretty well documented on the erection drawings

RA'ed:

Plz move to A&M Board
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8070 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9507 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:28 pm to
As mentioned by others, missing temporary bracing. Another problem I saw in the video, the post tension cables in the slab weren't stressed. Another sign of an incompetent contractor, loading the foundation too early.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:29 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23480 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:45 pm to
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It's pretty well documented on the erection drawings, just depends on the design if it is permanent or not. You'll see cable cross bracing in the roof also sometimes. Based on the photos that looks absent also from what I can see.

I bought the place well after it was built. I'm sure I have the drawings somewhere in the paperwork. But the vast majority of the cable stuff I can see is in the ceiling like you said. There is an addition I put on after I bought it that is basically a corrugated prefab garage on one end that has it all around and in the ceiling. But I remember them saying something about that needing to be permanent since it was a new addition. Didn't make sense since it was so much smaller, but they said something about it having to do with pouring a new slab.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46163 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 6:45 pm to
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It's all a house of cards without lateral bracing until the sheeting goes on.
the building is designed for in place loads not construction loads. The erector fricked up
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14565 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:04 pm to
Probably going to have to cut out footings too.
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