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re: The more you know about EV the more you wonder if we were really ready for this change.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:15 am to winkchance
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:15 am to winkchance
Ummmmm is it not obvious we aren't ready? Of course we aren't ready
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Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:23 am to Horsemeat
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The only reason why this is being pushed so hard is because the politicians own stock in the EV companies - hence why they're legislating it happen instead of letting the market decide.
I mean....its pretty naive to think that only the politicians pushing EV have a financial incentive. Who do you think is pushing the opposite agenda and why?
Self awareness is a dying trait.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:34 am to Upperdecker
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And the emissions reducing aspects of the EV are null and void for right now since energy generation for the grid still creates emissions
It does not create the same level of emissions so it's not "null and void".
Posted on 9/1/22 at 4:09 am to tonydtigr
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It’s easier to grab a couple of gas cans to refill your car that is out of gas than to get your “dead on the side of the interstate in a traffic jam EV” towed to a charging station. Think about it. You must never have been caught in hurricane evacuation traffic before.
This just shows a lack of understanding on your part. An EV wont lose near as much range in a huge traffic jam as a gas vehicle. You are better off in a huge traffic jam with an EV. Regenerative braking helps.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 4:10 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 6:30 am to billjamin
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Such a new and refreshing topic.
Always wonder if the idiots that post shite like this complain to the manager because the store has stuff on the shelves that they already have at home.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 7:12 am to beerJeep
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I just wanna know how the poor folk who drive a 90s Camry is gonna be able to afford a new EV and then afford to have a home charger installed at their rental home/apartmen
The large majority of Americans won’t be able to afford them. And that’s what they want. They want us to lose the ability to travel or escape
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:40 am to Revelator
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The large majority of Americans won’t be able to afford them. And that’s what they want. They want us to lose the ability to travel or escape
Are all of the ICE vehicles about to disappear?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:53 am to Upperdecker
quote:Gotta love the logic here. Quantity makes no difference eh? I guess it's pointless to ever improve anything since it's all "null and void" unless we reach perfection.
And the emissions reducing aspects of the EV are null and void for right now since energy generation for the grid still creates emissions
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:00 am to Central Tiger
quote:I'm sure you're a wealth of knowledge. Why don't you lay some on us then?
Always wonder if the idiots that post shite like this
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 9:01 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:45 am to fr33manator
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It’s not that harnessing new forms of energy is bad, it’s that these idiots are demonizing and trying to shut down the energy that WORKS (and provides products for all the rest) in the name of their religion.
The green nazis think outlawing the ICE will usher in the EV age without consequence.
It is comparable to the govt mandating all horses be outlawed after the ICE powered automobiles became affordable, abundant and dependable.
All of the greenies scoff at non EV users like we are Amish, clinging to our primitive existence.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:53 am to winkchance
I’m in general agreement with your post, but you have an odd opinion on wind turbines. They are very useful, but like solar power, they can only be used for a small percentage of our power needs, unless we have ways to store their energy.
Energy storage is coming. It probably won’t be in batteries, but will be chemical storage. For example, we can have big wind farms that drive processes like hydrogen production from freshwater. We can store the hydrogen and burn it even when the wind is not blowing.
As we develop a hydrogen (and ammonia) fuel infrastructure, wind turbines and solar farms will overcome the problem of non-availability when the wind, or sun, is not producing. This is the future. In 30 years we won’t be burning hydrocarbons unless we’ve come up with cheap sequestration, or the earth starts cooling, lol.
Energy storage is coming. It probably won’t be in batteries, but will be chemical storage. For example, we can have big wind farms that drive processes like hydrogen production from freshwater. We can store the hydrogen and burn it even when the wind is not blowing.
As we develop a hydrogen (and ammonia) fuel infrastructure, wind turbines and solar farms will overcome the problem of non-availability when the wind, or sun, is not producing. This is the future. In 30 years we won’t be burning hydrocarbons unless we’ve come up with cheap sequestration, or the earth starts cooling, lol.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:30 am to dgnx6
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They already have non plug in hybrids.
duhhh
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:46 am to taylork37
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I mean....its pretty naive to think that only the politicians pushing EV have a financial incentive. Who do you think is pushing the opposite agenda and why? Self awareness is a dying trait.
You liberal pieces of shite are willing to bend over fricking backwards to justify this stupid arse shite
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:47 am to taylork37
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It does not create the same level of emissions
Show us how you got to this conclusion
I bet you can’t
You just regurgitate Twitter talking points without any clue wtf you’re talking about
Self awareness is a dying trait
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:32 pm to Penrod
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Energy storage is coming. It probably won’t be in batteries
It is here and currently uses batteries. Check out what Elon did for Australia with their battery banks.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:51 pm to jmarto1
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It is here and currently uses batteries. Check out what Elon did for Australia with their battery banks.
But batteries have limited capacity. There are not enough rare earth materials to make the quantity of batteries we need. Unless there is an unforeseen revolution in battery technology, the future is in chemical storage.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:55 pm to billjamin
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I'm sure you're a wealth of knowledge. Why don't you lay some on us then?
You going to open some lithium mines for your batteries?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:00 pm to Penrod
Quick note, lithium batteries are chemical energy storage.
But I agree, lithium (or whatever) batteries are well-suited for portable applications, as well as home storage in most cases. But going up to grid-scale I think hydrogen will play an important role.
I think it's also important to note that there are many "low tech" ways to store energy. It can be stored as heat underground or in insulated tanks. It can be stored as gravitational potential (pumped hydro is by far the most efficient, but you need the terrain). It can be stored mechanically in a flywheel. It can even be stored by submerging buoyant objects.
Most of these are not terribly efficient, but if the cost per watt-hour efficiency is good enough and the energy produced would otherwise be wasted (like when wind turbine output has to be curtailed), some of these might be viable options.
But I agree, lithium (or whatever) batteries are well-suited for portable applications, as well as home storage in most cases. But going up to grid-scale I think hydrogen will play an important role.
I think it's also important to note that there are many "low tech" ways to store energy. It can be stored as heat underground or in insulated tanks. It can be stored as gravitational potential (pumped hydro is by far the most efficient, but you need the terrain). It can be stored mechanically in a flywheel. It can even be stored by submerging buoyant objects.
Most of these are not terribly efficient, but if the cost per watt-hour efficiency is good enough and the energy produced would otherwise be wasted (like when wind turbine output has to be curtailed), some of these might be viable options.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:03 pm to dgnx6
quote:No, but I'll probably get lithium company's a shite load of capital.
You going to open some lithium mines for your batteries?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:05 pm to Korkstand
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like when wind turbine output has to be curtailed
This issue is currently being solved by bitcoin mining. Which is a terrible use of potential generation but fixes the economics.
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