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re: The more you know about EV the more you wonder if we were really ready for this change.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:21 am to winkchance
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:21 am to winkchance
The only reason why this is being pushed so hard is because the politicians own stock in the EV companies - hence why they're legislating it happen instead of letting the market decide.
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:21 am to beerJeep
quote:Don't you have a crazy neighbor to keep an eye out for? Why are you wasting time here and not keeping watch from the snipers perch?
Such a new and refreshing response to a new and refreshing topic.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:21 am to beerJeep
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shite, a total restore probably costs less than a replacement EV battery
A rebuilt motor and tranny might be $7k tops?
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:22 am to winkchance
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But EVs? replacement batteries are $30,000. LINK
I read about this. The part number on the quote doesn't exist anymore, and that dealer may not be entirely honest in what they are doing.
Battery replacement for that car runs for about $9,000 for equipment - another $2500 in labor. Still insanely expensive for what is now a very old car. It's akin to the cost of a complete powertrain replacement in a typical mainstream gas car, like a Chevy Cruze or Toyota Camry.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:22 am to billjamin
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Such a new and refreshing topic.
So new and refreshing that you had to drop by to add nothing of substance.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:22 am to billjamin
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Don't you have a crazy neighbor to keep an eye out for? Why are you wasting time here and not keeping watch from the snipers perch?
What? I did have a neighbor a few years ago whos teenage son wore a squirrel outfit and played with a bullwhip in the street… I guess that’s weird
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 9:23 am
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:23 am to beerJeep
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I just wanna know how the poor folk who drive a 90s Camry is gonna be able to afford a new EV and then afford to have a home charger installed at their rental home/apartment
And if you charge it at a charging station...it's not exactly free. Can't stand this "they pay for themselves" narrative
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 9:23 am
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:23 am to beerJeep
quote:I might be confusing you with another poster with jeep in their name from the crazy neighbor thread.
What?
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:23 am to WITNESS23
People in California love their cars. I can see some push back on this mandate. And there isn't enough charging infrastructure to justify it there in the first place.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:24 am to member12
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I read about this. The part number on the quote doesn't exist anymore, and that dealer may not be entirely honest in what they are doing.
Battery replacement for that car runs for about $9,000 for equipment - another $2500 in labor.
I think I read this as well. But even a $13,000 repair after taxes is still a painful sting for a 10-12 year old car.
If that doesn't total it mechanically, it comes damn close.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:25 am to winkchance
EV used car prices will need to reflect that the car will only have a few more years of usable battery life and throw in a replacement cost.
how many buying used car will even have the 5 figures needed to replace a battery.
Add in the home charging stations.... for most americans, if you cant finance it or charge it on a card, they cant afford to buy it.
so unless you can finance your home charging station witht he car "purchase" they cant afford it
how many buying used car will even have the 5 figures needed to replace a battery.
Add in the home charging stations.... for most americans, if you cant finance it or charge it on a card, they cant afford to buy it.
so unless you can finance your home charging station witht he car "purchase" they cant afford it
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:27 am to WITNESS23
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Afford solar panels to power it and your home during outages.
I don't see how solar panels can charge a Level 2/3 vehicle's battery. Or even a portable generator can't provide enough voltage for the actual charge point port of today's EV lithium ion. Even if you get an adapter to 115v level 1, the amount of charge from say even a 15kw generator would be like 1 to 2 miles charge every hour...if you're lucky. This is a common misconception with EV's, thinking all you need is just a power source like generators to charge...much more complicated than that.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:27 am to GREENHEAD22
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Just about every "green" energy is actually worse for the environment than traditional energy sources except coal. When you account for production and transportation of materials.
People always forget about the foot print too. A solar farm destroys acres of habitat for little reward compared to oil or nuclear. The storage of waste for these are roughly the same in space. And everything in solar requires oil to be manufactured.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:28 am to YOURADHERE
I purchased an Audi A7 hybrid in June of 2021. In December of 2021, it stopped working, part for the electric battery failed. Five months later, no part and no clue when it will be made. Six months later, I swapped EV for gas guzzling A7 and was told the EV part was being manufactured in...the Ukraine. Dealership told me last week still no part. We ain't ready.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:29 am to winkchance
When you realize the EV deal coupled with ending fossil fuel use for us regular folk is about control, then you will be on the right track. All the EV how’s and why’s do not mean shite and are a waste of time to discuss.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:29 am to Paddyshack
quote:Complains about not adding substance, then adds a post with no substance.
So new and refreshing that you had to drop by to add nothing of substance.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:31 am to GREENHEAD22
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I agree, the transition is what it being completely fricked.
The government never declared that by 1920 all vehicles would be gas engine and horse would be illegal. I also do not remember government building gas stations, this was all done by private industry.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:31 am to winkchance
I'm all for EV and taking care of our home planet. Because we're never leaving it in the foreseeable future. But don't force me to buy what I don't want or can't afford and let me have the ICE option if I want.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:34 am to GREENHEAD22
quote:dude, legacy suits to make my lawyer grand children wealthy!!!
btw. The heavy metal leaching from these farms will render that soil useless and not to mention there are no remediation or reclamation statues so these the financial burden will fall to the land owner for cleanup. We are watching a environmental catastrophe unfolding before our eyes on our most valuable and least available habitat and land.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:37 am to beerJeep
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The more you know about EV the more you wonder if we were really ready for this change. by beerJeep
I just wanna know how the poor folk who drive a 90s Camry is gonna be able to afford a new EV and then afford to have a home charger installed at their rental home/apartment
They're not going to have a car, which is the plan. They want to force people into tint apartments in the city and either walking or using public transportation.
They completely understand not everyone will be able to have/afford an EV, and that's the point.
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