re: The Michigan high school shooter's parents are on the run (now arrested and in custody)

In the book Columbine, Dave Cullen makes some pretty disturbing implications about Eric Harris’s parents. Specifically, it seems, based on his research, that those parents were turning a blind eye to Eric’s behavior.

The Klebolds were not much better off. But they at least acknowledged that Dylan had problems. But they took too damn long to see what was about to happen.

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quote: “Would’ve prompted admin to tell the parents he couldn’t return to school until he was seen and cleared by a mental health professional. Or we would offer to call in a mobile assessment.

It would have also prompted us to search his backpack ourselves. And if the parents refused to get him help, a CPS call would be coming. Security would’ve been called to remove them from the property (kid included) if they didn’t leave when we requested. There’d be no staying at school.”




All of this. It's simply unconscionable he was allowed to step foot back in those school hallways. And I don't want to hear, "oh, the parents wouldn't pull him out". So fricking what! If you expel a kid for something, do you wait for the parents to sign off on the expulsion? Of course not. A threat is a threat. Hundreds of kids' safety comes before the feelings of a single, irresponsible family.

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I have seen police involved for less. I find it hard to believe if they presented evidence that kid was about to go off as obviously as DA is making it that they didn’t have police get involved, didn’t force kid to be sent home as making threats against fellow students, and actually gave 48 hours to get counseling. It comes across more as they recommended going home for the day which happens in a lot of situations that aren’t dangerous. If a kid is viewed as homicidal or suicidal you don’t just make recommendation to go home early and get counseling within 48 hours. That is easily dismissed by parents if kid tells them he was joking or copying something from a tv show.

Kid looking up ammunition looks bad after the fact, but I doubt he is only kid looking up that or worse stuff. I also doubt that no one on staff was told or knew about him getting a gun or saw any of the posts on social media. The kid was probably telling people at school. Regardless If school didn’t ask parents about access to guns they aren’t expressing immediate concerns DA is saying. Not even sure if they said go home for 48 hours, so it seemed like take test of day off, start looking at counseling, talk with your kid some, and see you tomorrow at school.

As for gun it is one thing for parents to say they bought kid a gun and let kid post on social media that the parents actually control (regardless of how secure) and kid can only use with one of them until the kid is of age, and it is another to hand it to him to do as he pleases. If parents did the latter that would be reckless.

Parent Checking the backpack would depend on who truly controlled the gun. If parents gave it to kid to do whatever he wanted they should have checked even if they didn’t think he was about to use it as in this scenario they don’t control it. Our kids couldn’t have backpacks at school (not that a handgun couldn’t be stored in some of those mammoth zippered binders or even the string bags), but school could have asked parent for permission to look at anything in situation like that. If they didn’t ask parents they again aren’t showing sense of urgency and danger implied by DA.

The parents may have done everything the DA is implying, but right now the main “proof” is the shootings. I also think a good hard look needs to be done at the schools response if again it was clearly communicated that kid was a threat as DA is implying.

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Better start rounding up every teenager with angst that is jamming emo music and making stupid statements like "my life is useless"

Again, it's easy to judge all of this after the fact, but do you know how many kids say shite like this on a daily basis?

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Julie with the black clothes and eyeliner may be angsty but it becomes a bit more than emo angst when they’re making videos about killing their classmates to go along with it.

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quote: “Better start rounding up every teenager with angst that is jamming emo music and making stupid statements like "my life is useless"

Again, it's easy to judge all of this after the fact, but do you know how many kids say shite like this on a daily basis?”


Julie with the black clothes and eyeliner may be angsty but it becomes a bit more than emo angst when they’re making videos about killing their classmates to go along with it.

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Did this kid make a video like this that was know beforehand (even if not taken seriously at the time)?

US Marshals announce reward, release wanted posters for James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of the accused Oxford HS (Michigan) shooter.





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it’s that they contributed to the deaths of the victims through criminally negligent conduct. Which takes a lot more factors into account

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Were the Parents of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold charged for the Columbine shooting? They were both arrested on felony charges a year before the shooting. Their parents both paid for the internet, computers, and house for them to plot their massacre. It’s a slippery slope to charge the parents in this case, especially when they are trying the kid as an adult. They aren’t legally responsible to make the gun inaccessible in Michigan. The kid acted on his own and should fry for that.

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They were called into the school and basically told their son was contemplating a mess shooting…

They refused to allow him to be sent home.

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What you are saying is that school really felt and communicated to parents that the kid was contemplating a mass shooting but then gave parents a choice to keep him in school rest of day or not, to set up counseling within 48 hours not immediately or require any kind of clearance to be in school, didn’t request permission from parents to check backpack, and didn’t report it to police.

Either the nature of what the school truly communicated and emphasized to parents is being exaggerated, or the school handled it so incompetently that those in charge of it at the school should be investigated.

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Kill the kid and throw the parents in jail for life.


Would you also say this for a minority kid with minority parents?

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Always about race with you clowns.

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She can prosecute my penis.

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The "good trouble" shirt lets you know she'd charge you with rape after consensual sex.

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I think its enough of a question for a jury to decide on the criminal side. Let a jury decide based on the standard of Michigan law.

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People who committed no crime shouldn't have to stand trial.