re: The major changes coming for your washers and dryers in the next three years

That’s great and all but my old fancy dryer that claimed to do all that energy saving stuff with sensors that detected the dryness of the clothes would spin around for 1.5 hours then stop. Clothes were still soaking wet. We had to switch the setting to timed dries for about an hour that cut off that fancy crap. SQ has none that. It’s done in 20-25 minutes no matter the load size. I can do almost 3 loads to one.

That’s my experience with the high efficiency stuff. Plus it’s never good when the government gets involved.

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Thats nice and all, but nor reality

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Older dryers do the job in 20 min, Newer dryers have sensors that continue to cycle on until the clothes are dry. That normally takes 90 min at my house

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Surely you understand that your experience with a couple of specific models is not representative of the industry as a whole. Also, surely you understand that run time is not the only variable in the energy consumption equation.

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Factor in the increase in cost to the homeowner, who is now paying peak surcharges for those extra 70 min, because they cant get the job done in 20 min, at bedtime like they used to. Plus, all the other energy efficient products that are running during peak hours, only because it takes so much longer to do the job

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Surely you understand that time-of-use billing is not based on duration, but on energy consumed.



Or, maybe surely you are an idiot.

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is not based on duration, but on energy consume

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I spelled it out for you and you still couldnt understand it

We could dry clothes in 20 min at bedtime. Non-peak. We had to start the newer dryer an hour or more before then. Peak. Same thing with the dishwasher. We used to do a load in 32 min. It now takes 116 min

Plus, the hot water tank, the a/c unit, dishwashers, dehumidifiers, refrigeration devices were also using more peak time energy, because they are designed to cycle slower. Additional 'smart features also tap into wifi and other assistive devices, creating more peak energy usage

So despite the "energy consumed", the cost to the homeowner gets larger. They are paying more during peak time, that they didnt have to by showering later, adjusting the a/c, washing clothes and dishes ;ater, and not connecting to the Internet. Peak time rates are by design intended to hurt your wallet. As much as 50% higher

Otherwise, the utility companies wouldn't be pushing them so hard, now would they? Theres more money to be made

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I spelled it out for you and you still couldnt understand it

We could dry clothes in 20 min at bedtime. Non-peak. We had to start the newer dryer an hour or more before then. Peak. Same thing with the dishwasher. We used to do a load in 32 min. It now takes 116 min

Plus, the hot water tank, the a/c unit, dishwashers, dehumidifiers, refrigeration devices were also using more peak time energy, because they are designed to cycle slower. Additional 'smart features also tap into wifi and other assistive devices, creating more peak energy usage

So despite the "energy consumed", the cost to the homeowner gets larger. They are paying more during peak time, that they didnt have to by showering later, adjusting the a/c, washing clothes and dishes ;ater, and not connecting to the Internet. Peak time rates are by design intended to hurt your wallet. As much as 50% higher

Otherwise, the utility companies wouldn't be pushing them so hard, now would they? Theres more money to be made

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I can't stand Kork, but he's making you look like a fool in this thread.