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re: The gloves are off regarding St. George...
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:47 am to BottomlandBrew
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:47 am to BottomlandBrew
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I'd disagree that it's a vanity project. It has greatly affected downtown and it's overall revitalization.
Yeah, the downtown area is making great strides
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:48 am to bbap
Oh he'll be going the catholic school route no doubt.
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Invariably the people that I've talked to that are against St. George incorporating either don't have children, have children who are college aged or above, or have enough money for private schools.
I'm uneasy about the impact on me as a BR owner but the argument opposing it is weak.
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John graduated from Catholic High School in 1992 and Louisiana State University in 1995 before receiving his law degree from Tulane University in 1999.
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Invariably the people that I've talked to that are against St. George incorporating either don't have children, have children who are college aged or above, or have enough money for private schools.
I'm uneasy about the impact on me as a BR owner but the argument opposing it is weak.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:48 am to urinetrouble
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So how much more construction spending has been spent on downtown improvements compared Green Light Plan?
Exactly. I know the amount spent on the two parks downtown. It ain't nowhere near what has been spent on Green Light. $784 million (green light) vs. $10 million (Town Square and Repentence Park).
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:49 am to teke184
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Screwing up traffic and putting a goddamn Jumbotron out by the Old State Capitol is not a huge revitalization of the area IMHO.
I think it looks great. Gives the heart of downtown a better sense of place and makes it a lot more functional for gatherings and events. Pretty sure it won a design award.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:50 am to EarthwormJim
I like downtown. Getting very nice, IMO.
One side note about the council/mayor crying and screaming all about "unity" and staying "together"...where was all this unity and togetherness when Central incorporated?
Could it be that there wasn't 53 million+ in taxes per year being generated for the taking?
Food for thought.
One side note about the council/mayor crying and screaming all about "unity" and staying "together"...where was all this unity and togetherness when Central incorporated?
Could it be that there wasn't 53 million+ in taxes per year being generated for the taking?
Food for thought.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:50 am to bbap
I'm all for their right to creat their own city if they want to and vote for it. I'm just happy as a motherfricker that I don't live there since insurance rates and taxes will skyrocket at first. It'll be one hell of an adjustment period for those residents if they accomplish this.
Would also create racial tensions like we've never seen in EBR and probably across the state. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few riots break out here and there.
I have mixed feelings about the issue.
Would also create racial tensions like we've never seen in EBR and probably across the state. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few riots break out here and there.
I have mixed feelings about the issue.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:50 am to urinetrouble
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Pretty sure it won a design award.
It's won quite a few.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:51 am to BottomlandBrew
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Exactly. I know the amount spent on the two parks downtown. It ain't nowhere near what has been spent on Green Light. $784 million (green light) vs. $10 million (Town Square and Repentence Park).
Right. I don't what else in downtown he is talking about. But it seems it's the exact opposite of what he claimed. The downtown improvements are more of a drop in the bucket.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:55 am to TDsngumbo
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I'm all for their right to creat their own city if they want to and vote for it. I'm just happy as a motherfricker that I don't live there since insurance rates and taxes will skyrocket at first. It'll be one hell of an adjustment period for those residents if they accomplish this.
Would also create racial tensions like we've never seen in EBR and probably across the state. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few riots break out here and there.
You should run for council. You've touched on a few pretty good ones for the fear mongering angle. Hadn't seen the race riot one yet. Nice addition.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:56 am to BottomlandBrew
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It ain't nowhere near what has been spent on Green Light. $784 million
what percentage of that is in the city limits and outside the city limits?
also how much of that revenue was generated inside the city limits and outside the city limits?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:57 am to Topwater Trout
Good point.
Money spent about proportionally as money generated seems fair.
Money spent about proportionally as money generated seems fair.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:04 am to White Shadeaux
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Money spent about proportionally as money generated seems fair.
That is what BR is afraid of
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:05 am to Camp Randall
Regarding Delgado, I know this isn't the Poli Board but it seems apropos here.
I try to avoid government as much as possible and certainly don't ever ask anything of my elected officials but I finally needed to call his office for something. I asked to speak to him directly and left my contact info. He had his "assistant" call me back and she wouldn't put him on the line. You would have thought I called the White House. I finally went ahead with my request through her and, you guessed it, they did absolutely nothing on the issue. Now that I hear he is a lawyer and is threatening to sue over this St. George thing I have placed him firmly in the AssHat category.
I try to avoid government as much as possible and certainly don't ever ask anything of my elected officials but I finally needed to call his office for something. I asked to speak to him directly and left my contact info. He had his "assistant" call me back and she wouldn't put him on the line. You would have thought I called the White House. I finally went ahead with my request through her and, you guessed it, they did absolutely nothing on the issue. Now that I hear he is a lawyer and is threatening to sue over this St. George thing I have placed him firmly in the AssHat category.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:05 am to Topwater Trout
Green light was funded through a dedicated 1/2 cent sales tax passed and imposed in East Baton Rouge Parish. St George isn't leaving East Baton Rouge. Like Baton Rouge and Central, they pay parish taxes and will continue to contribute regardless of incorporation.
The St George effort is more about public schools than frustration with parish leadership.....although some members of the council have lately been very vindictive and spiteful.
The St George effort is more about public schools than frustration with parish leadership.....although some members of the council have lately been very vindictive and spiteful.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 11:09 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:07 am to dewster
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Green light was funded through a dedicated tax passed and imposed in East Baton Rouge Parish. St George isn't leaving East Baton Rouge.
I know
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:08 am to Topwater Trout
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what percentage of that is in the city limits and outside the city limits?
Feel free to do your own analysis. I don't feel like mapping out 60 projects.
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also how much of that revenue was generated inside the city limits and outside the city limits?
It's based on sales tax. Feel free to do that takeoff as well. I'm not an accountant.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:09 am to TDsngumbo
Riots? The taxes aren't going to rise and if it does, it's not going to sky rocket. If St. George incorporated today it would have a surplus of money. That's why the council members are so against it. They don't want to be left with the low income non tax paying portion of the residency in the city. I live off Jefferson Highway and while I have the money to send my sons to private school, I would very much like to not spend 12k a year a piece for them to get an education. If tax increases are what has to happen for the public school system to become localized and improve then I am for it. I hope Norman Browning is successful. A great man with the future of our kids in mind.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:13 am to Camp Randall
I love the riots part. What about the global warming that incorporation of SG would cause. And what about the sinkhole this is sure to generate?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:13 am to tdg
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:16 am to Prominentwon
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but why are so many members of the city council/govt. against this entire incorporation?
I will give you 3 gue$$e$
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