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re: The FBI monitored a website for hiring a hitman; a New Orleans woman fell for it.

Posted on 7/15/23 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182545 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Did she pay a hit man or a federal agent?



Does this matter if her intentions were the same?
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
47454 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:22 pm to
Well obviously

Most satire sucks arse, this one is very well done, website is hilarious
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:25 pm
Posted by PhifeDogg
Member since Mar 2006
6294 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:34 pm to
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Where are the pics of this lovely lady?
Possibly her
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21129 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:37 pm to
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Okay.

Did she pay a hit man or a federal agent?

Pretty simple question.

People like you are why guilty people get off in jury trials
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5356 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:52 pm to
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Entrapment is where you're put into a situation where you don't have a way out of committing a crime.


That's not what entrapment is.

But to settle the debate here the reason this isn't entrapment is because this website was built and started by a private citizen as a "joke" and then when he got serious responses, he forwarded them to the FBI and he now continues to operate and monitor the website under the assumption that he will forward information to the FBI.

If all of that sounds a little suspicious to you (ie, agency) then maybe you're onto something, but as long as a private citizen is baiting the trap then the government can still skin the hide. And nobody is going to rush out to defend the civil liberties of some Karen who is trying to kill her husband.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:57 pm to
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How is this not entrapment?
Right?!

fricking shite…
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:50 pm to
I knew two guys in high school who were a year older than me. One of the guys dad was the mayor of our small town. Two years out of HS they were involved in a small time drug distribution ring in East Cobb, Ga.. They tried to hire a guy to give some dude a tune-up and got put on the ground and arrested after money changed hands. This happened at a Hardees. Yes, a Hardees in Marietta, GA.

I knew the mayors son well. Our dads coached us together growing up. The son was the most 80s preppy guy you would ever come across. Like some goober out of a movie. He got sent to the State Pen in Jackson, GA. for 2 years. He was not the same smooth talking preppy after his release. He was a custom made prison bitch if there ever was one.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:54 pm to
You’re the stupid frick that actually believes it

You probably think your wife is faithful too

Bless your heart
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:56 pm to
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You’re the stupid frick that actually believes it


Now now, getting worked up might cause you to split your corset.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143854 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:09 pm to
I will let y'all argue the entrapment angle. I believe the argument can be made both ways.

but this alone

quote:

Among other things, it boasts a faux HIPPA notice for the "Hitman Information Privacy & Protection Act of 1964."


makes her one of the dumbest people on the planet for falling for a fake site.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75208 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:15 pm to
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That's not what entrapment is.


Either way, this isn't entrapment.

If people want to insist that this be considered entrapment, they better be ready to let a whole lot of pedophiles go.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7724 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:43 pm to
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That's not what entrapment is.

But to settle the debate here the reason this isn't entrapment is because this website was built and started by a private citizen as a "joke" and then when he got serious responses, he forwarded them to the FBI and he now continues to operate and monitor the website under the assumption that he will forward information to the FBI.

If all of that sounds a little suspicious to you (ie, agency) then maybe you're onto something, but as long as a private citizen is baiting the trap then the government can still skin the hide. And nobody is going to rush out to defend the civil liberties of some Karen who is trying to kill her husband.
Wrong. It does not matter that the website was built and started by a private citizen.


A valid entrapment defense has two related elements: (1) government inducement of the crime, and (2) the defendant's lack of predisposition to engage in the criminal conduct. Of the two elements, predisposition is by far the more important.

Inducement is the threshold issue in the entrapment defense. Mere solicitation to commit a crime is not inducement. Nor does the government's use of artifice, stratagem, pretense, or deceit establish inducement. Rather, inducement requires a showing of at least persuasion or mild coercion; pleas based on need, sympathy, or friendship; or extraordinary promises of the sort "that would blind the ordinary person to his legal duties." Inducement shown only if government's behavior was such that "a law-abiding citizen's will to obey the law could have been overborne." Inducement shown if government created "a substantial risk that an offense would be committed by a person other than one ready to commit it." The key question is whether the officer did something that would induce an otherwise normally law abiding citizen to commit a crime.

Even if inducement has been shown, a finding of predisposition is fatal to an entrapment defense. The predisposition inquiry focuses upon whether the defendant "was an unwary innocent or, instead, an unwary criminal who readily availed himself of the opportunity to perpetrate the crime." Thus, predisposition should not be confused with intent or mens rea: a person may have the requisite intent to commit the crime, yet be entrapped. Also, predisposition may exist even in the absence of prior criminal involvement: "the ready commission of the criminal act," such as where a defendant promptly accepts an undercover agent's offer of an opportunity to buy or sell drugs, may itself establish predisposition.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:50 pm to
So what are the charges if someone was to act like they want to hire a gun through this site and then at the sit down he says "This is so cool. I always wanted to meet an FBI agent!".
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21129 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:56 pm to
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So what are the charges if someone was to act like they want to hire a gun through this site and then at the sit down he says "This is so cool. I always wanted to meet an FBI agent!".

You can't find out if you don't frick around
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7724 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:05 pm to
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Okay.

Did she pay a hit man or a federal agent?

Pretty simple question.
She was not charged with paying a hitman.

She was charged with violation of 18 U.S.C. section 875 which prohibits the transmission in interstate or foreign commerce of: (1) any demand or request for ransom or reward for the release of any kidnapped person; (2) a threat to kidnap or injure any person, either with or without the intent to extort; or (3) with intent to extort, a threat to injure the property or reputation of any person, including the reputation of a deceased person, or a threat to accuse any person of a crime.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:06 pm to
You can’t only get hitman on the dark web bro
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3332 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:08 pm to
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They met July 6, 2022, at a Waffle House on Canal Street


Everyone knows it’s not legit unless you meet up at Sonic.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37938 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:14 pm to
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Waffle House


Where murders are planned


And sometimes executed.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20052 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:26 am to
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That's why I stick to Craigslist to hire a hitman



I go with Angie's List since they also do background checks on the people hired for services required.

Can't be too safe now a days.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12154 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:41 am to
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How is this not entrapment?


The same way pedophile stings aren't entrapment, even though the 12 year old that the pervert talks into having sex turns out to be Chris Hansen.
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