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re: The eternal Powerball question: lump sum vs installment plan?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:26 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:26 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
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Which means they aren't any worse off than they were before they hit it, plus they had a shitload of fun along the way.
Arkansas fan justifying rednecks blowing all their lotto winnins...fitting
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:28 am to Cosmo
Lump sum.
I'd overdose long before the installments ever finished paying anyway. And I'm not married and I'll be damned if any of the bastards I make or their hooker or gold digging mothers I put them in get set up to get paid the majority of MY money for the next couple of decades.
I'd overdose long before the installments ever finished paying anyway. And I'm not married and I'll be damned if any of the bastards I make or their hooker or gold digging mothers I put them in get set up to get paid the majority of MY money for the next couple of decades.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:29 am to Peazey
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Do you still have to pay the gift tax if you just pay a huge bill for someone? Like say I paid off a family member's student loans that went to law school. Does that still fall under that?
You can pay for anybody's education expense or health care, whether they are related or not, and not have to pay tax on it.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:30 am to Cosmo
Ask my FIL and have his accountant take care of it. Whatever is smartest financially. 
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:33 am to tigersownall
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Lump sum. No doubt. At least then if I die I can give it to mi familia. Installments don't continue after death.
Where in the "F" did you learn that at?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:38 am to Cosmo
Take the 29 annual payments.
For 2 reasons.
1.) Lump some of $675; $413.1 mill taxed = $247 million to you. Yes that's a lot of money... but it's a 1 time payment.
Annuity = $675 divided by 29 = $23.27 mill per year taxed = almost $14 million per YEAR in bring home.
Over 29 years you're bringing home $405 million vs $247 million.
2.) If you take the lump sum, you will figure out a way to blow through $247 million at some point. IT happens to most winners. There is no more money unless you invest it wisely. One payment and that's it.
By taking annuity, you're getting $14 million a year, EVERY YEAR, on your anniversary winning date, this year and for 28 more years.
That gives you 29 chances at being a millionaire and how to manage that amount of money. You can blow it the first year. Hell, you can blow it the first 10 years and still figure out how to get it right.
For 2 reasons.
1.) Lump some of $675; $413.1 mill taxed = $247 million to you. Yes that's a lot of money... but it's a 1 time payment.
Annuity = $675 divided by 29 = $23.27 mill per year taxed = almost $14 million per YEAR in bring home.
Over 29 years you're bringing home $405 million vs $247 million.
2.) If you take the lump sum, you will figure out a way to blow through $247 million at some point. IT happens to most winners. There is no more money unless you invest it wisely. One payment and that's it.
By taking annuity, you're getting $14 million a year, EVERY YEAR, on your anniversary winning date, this year and for 28 more years.
That gives you 29 chances at being a millionaire and how to manage that amount of money. You can blow it the first year. Hell, you can blow it the first 10 years and still figure out how to get it right.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think they'd have to pay income tax on that amount
But what if you yourself are paying it and no money changes hands other than to the holder of the debt? The reason I asked, is my buddy and I have talked about this. If we won the lottery, we'd probably pay off all of our families bills, and likely a few friends as well. But try to do it in a way that they would not know until after the fact.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:39 am to Jake88
I'm using the current example. The jackpot is 675 million, 415 million cash, after taxes I assumed 215 million. I am assuming I can atleast make 3% interest on that which would be about 6.5 million. I am also not an idiot with money and I might beable to spend 6.5 million the first few years without an issue but after that I might have trouble spending that much every year and I'm assuming I will be giving a lot to charity and family and friends.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:41 am to Cosmo
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Yeah you have to settle for a used g4 at 213
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:42 am to TheCaterpillar
Everyone miraculously becomes a fricking financial analyst wizard when Powerball goes wayyyy overboard.
God Bless the USA, baby!
God Bless the USA, baby!
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:43 am to wheelz007
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Take the 29 annual payments.
For 2 reasons.
1.) Lump some of $675; $413.1 mill taxed = $247 million to you. Yes that's a lot of money... but it's a 1 time payment.
Annuity = $675 divided by 29 = $23.27 mill per year taxed = almost $14 million per YEAR in bring home.
Over 29 years you're bringing home $405 million vs $247 million.
2.) If you take the lump sum, you will figure out a way to blow through $247 million at some point. IT happens to most winners. There is no more money unless you invest it wisely. One payment and that's it.
By taking annuity, you're getting $14 million a year, EVERY YEAR, on your anniversary winning date, this year and for 28 more years.
That gives you 29 chances at being a millionaire and how to manage that amount of money. You can blow it the first year. Hell, you can blow it the first 10 years and still figure out how to get it right.
This is so stupid because it relies on one assumption: That we will blow through our winnings. If you take the lump sum, the huge amount of interest payments you'd get annually more than makes up for the hit you take it taxes.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:46 am to wheelz007
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Over 29 years you're bringing home $405 million vs $247 million.
People need to understand TVM.
It's a simple concept that prevents this kind of thinking.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:46 am to wheelz007
quote:You are speaking to some smart, conservative guys here though. Most of which are doing well off without that large amount of cash. I'd imagine that some here, being business savvy, would find a way to invest it for small, but stable returns. For instance, I would build a small regional conglomerate. Businesses including real estate and popular chain restaurants in college towns throughout the SEC's footprint. The rest of the money I would put away in low yielding safe investments and let that compound.
2.) If you take the lump sum, you will figure out a way to blow through $247 million at some point. IT happens to most winners. There is no more money unless you invest it wisely. One payment and that's it.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:47 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
quote:exactly.
People need to understand TVM.
It's a simple concept that prevents this kind of thinking.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:47 am to Cosmo
Take the lump, but tell family and friends I took installments so they don't know I have the whole amount on me.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:49 am to Cosmo
What happens to the installments if you die? Do they cease? I'm taking lump sum regardless, but just curious. If they installments don't survive your death, you are talking a huge risk for your family if you take the installments.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:50 am to TheCaterpillar
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Arkansas fan justifying rednecks blowing all their lotto winnins...fitting
Hey gotta look at the bright side.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:51 am to Cosmo
Which of you stupids would tythe any winnings?
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