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re: The era of the company man is over
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:42 pm to doc baklava
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:42 pm to doc baklava
why does she have a stained glass sunroof in her car?
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:00 pm to TheHarahanian
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And understood it again 3 years later when I worked with a contractor who hopped jobs every couple of years, and made significantly more than me. She’s 5 years younger than me.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:11 pm to evil cockroach
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Publicly traded Mega corp ? you can be 57 with 30+ years and you'll be canned when there is a slight downturn and the shareholders want better returns.
Troof
It happened to me when I was 60 with 38 years service.
I was surprised I made it that long. Many others were let go before I finally drew the short straw. They cut me a very nice severance check and I took my pension as a lump sum.
I was replaced by kids in India, Hungary and Portugal who they pay about 25% of what I was paid.
Not bitter. It was actually a relief when it finally happened. I planned for it well ahead of time.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:26 pm to doc baklava
I was lucky. Worked 43 years for the same company and retired 3 months ago. Trained my replacement, young guy, and said “adios”. I was just told last week young guy quit…lol It was a stressful job designing power substations with deadlines and liquidated damages. 60 hour weeks were the norm. My last job was an $800,000 Entergy.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:27 pm to MillerLiteTime
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Industrial post-agriculture America has only been around for about 100 years and it has gone through several rounds of necessary revisions and pendulum swings. It's not a fine tuned balanced system at all.
The unregulated early 1900's concentrated immense wealth in very few individuals and companies, led to despicable factory conditions, child labor, and eventually the great depression. The results of that led to a pendulum shift towards the middle with unions, worker rights, and a somewhat balanced middle class society. The pro-worker pendulum swung too far eventually though and the economy suffered through the 70s, which ushered in the Reagan led deregulation and stock market success of the 80s, 90's and 2000's.
But if you can't sense a coming worker revolution shift back, you are not paying attention to history. The internet and AI revolutions have shifted wealth concentration back to early 1900's era times and these extremely powerful companies are starting to flex their power, not in poor working conditions but in mass-layoffs and limited to no skill training or long term career advancement. For better or worse (I'm still not sure which one) we are definitely headed back to a heavily regulated pro-worker society. Both the Republicans and Democrats are now led by populist wings focused on worker issues.
I foresee that the middle and upper middle class are all of a sudden going to be cut off from the relatively easy lifestyle they have become accustomed to. They are in for a huge culture shock, and they won't be happy about it.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:33 pm to TulsaSooner78
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I was replaced by kids in India, Hungary and Portugal who they pay about 25% of what I was paid.
Oh thank Christ....I thought you were going to say a Mexican.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:37 pm to Willie Stroker
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Good.
It needed to be.
Try to hire the best people. Give people the feedback they need to improve. People need to commit to constant improvement. Those that fail to adapt to changes as the business adapts to a changing world, can go find a job better suited to their skills.
Thats not the way it works. You end up stuck with lazy dumdasses. Forever.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:47 pm to doc baklava
I never did it for the company, I did it for me and mine. I did the shite details for the extra compensation and opportunities. Sometimes it worked out and sometimes it didn't. But I put myself in a position to move or take advantage of what came along next.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:52 pm to Rougarou4lsu
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now that Trump has canceled all D.E.I. departments
DEI areas are still alive and well at most companies. They just rebranded.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:20 pm to doc baklava
Lol. I love how people think HR has all kinds of power. They have none and get told what to do by legal departments and c suite suits. The rest of the time they deal will petty employees bitching/acting like school children and petty managers who let the little power they have get to their heads.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
You would lose good money. The other 100 people who worked there during that time know exactly what happened and how it went down. The 4 people who set him up have henceforth been known as “The 4.” Now, the new boss that transferred in from another state knows who runs the show. It isn’t him. Oh yeah, 2 of the 4 are women. One of the men managers is always with one of the female at work functions out of office. They ride together a lot. He also asked me if I thought it would be okay if she came to one of the overnight pheasant shoots that I invited him to where I entertain clients. Said it would be nice if she could spend some time with them since she has to deal with them often on the phone. Of course I knew he just wanted his side piece there for a piece of arse at 3am. Those overnight outings at the lodge are always men clients only and any BD guy that would okay an overnight lone female in a group of 20+ men is asking for the shot to hit the fan. And she was the one who was being exposed the most for not doing her job and was being pushed to actually manage her department properly. So she got 2 of her underlings and her side piece man from another department to do the HR complaints along with her. She eliminated her problem with a little help from her friends.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:00 am to TulsaSooner78
Agree. The difference is globalization. For much of the service economy which has dominated in recent decades, who has to worry about unions and employees’ feelings when you can simply move the job to India or China or even Latin America. This is who the US middle class is competing with these days.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:14 am to Tridentds
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The primary job of the HR department nowadays is to prevent the company from being sued when someone is let go. That's it.
I worked in a company that hired a new VP of HR. It was her job to adjust the performance program to categorize people and especially the oldsters such that they could be cut loose to streamline the company. Individuals who'd historically had very good evaluations found themselves with the short straw. The CEO wanted to cut headcount and the VPHR made that happen.
I had already announced my retirement on a date such that I was able to see many of my colleagues get the ax. If I would not have announced my retirement I would have gotten the ax after 33 years. I stuck around for another few months. I was already building my retirement home in a different state.
My penalty for having "survived" the cut was loss of about 60 weeks of pay for severance.
A shrewd HR VP makes all this stuff happen so seamlessly.
Within two years all of the older pension getting employees were gone.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:07 am to Cosmo
I watched that whole thing and I feel like I just sat through a root canal.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:16 am to doc baklava
I feel luckier than most of you. I work for mid-size tech-manufacturing/ design/ logistics company that was founded 25 yrs. ago and privately owned.
The owner, who is a great guy, sits 30 feet away from me and readily accessible to any employee at most times during the day. If he ever sells the company to a private equity group, then we'll know the end is near.
The owner, who is a great guy, sits 30 feet away from me and readily accessible to any employee at most times during the day. If he ever sells the company to a private equity group, then we'll know the end is near.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:45 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Nope. That’s s naive view. My last employer quietly eliminated entire business units. Top performers, low performers… this particular fortune 100 company doesn’t give a damn about your performance, only how expensive you are.
I was rif’d recently. It’s all about eliminating expense. I was 12+ years in with less than 6 months before I could retire at age 55. They got rid of me, will back fill with someone junior or offshore, meanwhile they figure out how to use AI to replace the backfill hires.
The key part to that plan is taking back all the unvested stock awards issued over the years. In the process they pulled SERIOUS money away from all of us they let go. Profits over people my friend.
I will 100% change jobs every 2-4 years from this point forward to do one thing - make more money for my benefit. I won’t get fricked again.
I was rif’d recently. It’s all about eliminating expense. I was 12+ years in with less than 6 months before I could retire at age 55. They got rid of me, will back fill with someone junior or offshore, meanwhile they figure out how to use AI to replace the backfill hires.
The key part to that plan is taking back all the unvested stock awards issued over the years. In the process they pulled SERIOUS money away from all of us they let go. Profits over people my friend.
I will 100% change jobs every 2-4 years from this point forward to do one thing - make more money for my benefit. I won’t get fricked again.
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