re: The end of an era, DJ Michael Watts died yesterday

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42. Literally the perfect age for this discussion, as I was 10 in 1993 and 18 in 2001.

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To be fair, hip hop started before you were born....

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I'm talking rap, not hip hop

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The Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight" dropped in 1979.

Fwiw: I don't separate rap and hip hop.

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No but I wish I was

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Then you really don't have a good idea of how it all went down do you?

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Then I kept listening to it because of the sampling of 60s and 70s Soul/R&B/Disco songs.

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Sampling

"None of us have any musical talent so we'll just outright steal others' music and give it a half-assed name."

Life was better when rap/hip hop was dominated by this red line

RIP Pimp C

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I have a better idea than boomers born in the 80s and before because I grew up with the internet and I can look at diagrams of how the cia invented rap to sell crack and then funnel the money to the contras

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Oh that's rich.

So because you "have the internet" you have a better idea than those of us that were alive and experienced how it grew organically? From the disco tunes of the mid to late 70s to party jams to run dmc and beyond, some of us saw it happen. It wasn't "rap music started now" sort of thing. It was a slow progression.

And while CIA–Contra–cocaine scandal (Iran contra happened before the crack epidemic started) was real — the idea that it means the CIA invented rap is conspiracy nonsense. Iran-Contra was real, and some Contras were linked to cocaine, but there’s no proof the CIA invented rap or orchestrated a crack epidemic. You can’t even get your conspiracies right.

And boomers weren't born in the 80s. They were born in the 50s and 60s.

You're just FULL of bad takes aren't you?

White American and British rockers in the 50s and 60s acknowledged and were inspired by black blues and jazz players of previous generations by, you know, actually playing musical instruments. Rappers just outright stole recordings and used them.

I would say "who", but why?

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I grew up with the internet and I can look at diagrams of how the cia invented rap to sell crack and then funnel the money to the contras

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Dummy.

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Webb later clarified his series did not claim the CIA directly targeted Black communities with crack, but rather that a drug pipeline existed. The idea that the CIA invented rap music is an unsubstantiated embellishment lacking factual support in the history of the genre.

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MTV told generations of youth they should be into this rap crap or they're racists.

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We are just making shite up now huh?