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re: The Depp/Heard Trial is the gift that keeps on giving

Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Corso
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:16 am to
That's what I was getting to in my comments about being on the jury. Most don't want to be there, most are bored, but also most are intelligent enough to see that this is all Elaine and Amber have to come up with. A bunch of friends and a sister spending hours saying that he yelled, drank, and snorted, BUT never touched her. The jury is probably pissed at Elaine and pissed at Amber because of it. I know a jury is supposed to be fair and impartial but they're human, so honestly they aren't a lot of the time. My jury hated the defense lawyer so much 3 or 4 people were going to vote guilty out of spite
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:22 am to
Either Depp hit Amber or he didn't. The jury must decide what, if any, of Amber's testimony they believe. Multiple witnesses saying Depp had a temper supports a temper, but too much of that indicates to me they are concerned that the jury will not believe Amber.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:23 am to
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So its on to closing if that happens?



I think they will have to do the jury charge conference first. That will take a couple of hours at least. Often times the judge will give the jury a half day off for that, then have them come back for closing.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:24 am to
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Either Depp hit Amber or he didn't.


We will have to see the jury charge, but I think there is room for the jury to zero Depp even if they believe he never hit her.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:26 am to
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We will have to see the jury charge, but I think there is room for the jury to zero Depp even if they believe he never hit her.


I agree.

Goodness, this testimony is filled with objections and no substance. Why did they call him?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:27 am to
this deposition of Johnny's attorney is ridiculous.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:28 am to
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Should Depp do rebuttal? My instinct is no. You'd have to see the jury to make the call, but if you really think you are winning, sit down and shut up.

I'd maybe call 2 people on rebuttal

1) recall the psychologist Depp's team had on their case-in-chief... just to say all the stuff that Heard's psychologist said is BS and that after watching the proceedings in the court not only do I stand behind what I said earlier but I double down on it

2) apparently there's a letter out there that's known about where Whitney apparently said the stairs incident is BS... they can call the person who either wrote or received that letter to get it into evidence to debunk Whitney's retelling of the stairs incident... the only incident of Depp abusing Amber that has some kind of witness corroboration (Whitney)
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by Corso
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:30 am to
Oh holy hell here we go again with Elaine not being able to ask a damn allowable question
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:35 am to
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Oh holy hell here we go again with Elaine not being able to ask a damn allowable question

Elaine's doing this on purpose to try and make Depp's attorney seem evasive... having the other lawyer's voice saying "attorney/client privilege" kinda mutes the damage Elaine's trying to do
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:38 am to
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Elaine not being able to ask a damn allowable question


She did this aboot 350 times. Is that going to turn into 350 censures? She needs to run a 3-legged race, to the hospital, to have Camille's foot removed from her rear-end.
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:45 am to
I wonder if only fans allows scat fetish/A&M’s stuff. Amber may really have a niche what with the bed poop and violence.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:46 am to
this dude got suspended from Twitter for life?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:48 am to
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this dude got suspended from Twitter for life?




That's probably a compliment.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:49 am to
This is such a ridiculous waste of time. I get it, they had to call/depose him since this who Heard is saying defamed her on Depp's behalf but it's 99.9% attorney-client privilege objections. I would be annoyed as a juror.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:54 am to
if this guy was on the stand right now... this would be a replay of Heard's redirect

Elaine: *asks question*

Ben Chew: "Objection. Attorney/Client Privilege"

Judge: "Sustained."

Elaine: "I-uh-eh-oh-I..."
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:54 am to
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We will have to see the jury charge, but I think there is room for the jury to zero Depp even if they believe he never hit her.

"abuse" is a difficult concept to define. The jury can find "abuse" just based on dysfunction. They certainly can do as you suggest.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:00 am to
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"abuse" is a difficult concept to define. The jury can find "abuse" just based on dysfunction. They certainly can do as you suggest.



The problem for Heard, from what I've seen, is that they have made the abuse argument almost entirely physical and sexual abuse. Her physical/sexual abuse claims are so outlandish I can't imagine any juror actually believes her. However, Depp almost certainly could be considered to have verbally abused her, that is much more believable. They haven't pushed that angle much though and all of the recordings of him with her are him sounding very calm and collected while she sounds insane.

The worst one for him was the slamming cabinets video but even then in that video she says nothing happened to her and he was slamming cabinets, not her. If he was such a monster who constantly beat her when he was angry why did he not hit her in that video? It makes no sense.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:01 am to
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The worst one for him was the slamming cabinets video but even then in that video she says nothing happened to her and he was slamming cabinets, not her. If he was such a monster who constantly beat her when he was angry why did he not hit her in that video? It makes no sense.

this is the video that Camille outright accused Amber of selling to TMZ to demean Johnny
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:05 am to
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this is the video that Camille outright accused Amber of selling to TMZ to demean Johnny


Right and that is her best evidence of his anger and rage. It's a joke.
Posted by Hangit
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:12 am to
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there is room for the jury to zero Depp even if they believe he never hit her.


I would give him $10 million. The $3 million she has earned, plus the $7 million he had to give her in the divorce settlement. She said she didn't want the 7 anyway.
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