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re: The culture of women today #metoo

Posted on 10/10/18 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 1:29 pm to
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This dude isn’t a victim. Neither is anyone else.


I agree with this.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 1:33 pm to
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’m not really talking about someone literally going up to woman after woman at the bar and saying “HAVE SEX WITH ME DURR”


You quite literally said that it works.

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But you think a little light introductory flirting followed by a quick cut to the chase “wanna get out of here?”


Is creepy and pathetic?



That's not what you said.

Your post:

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his text is akin to asking random chicks at the bar if they want to have sex....even if they want to they are gonna say no



You do it smooth enough and confident enough and you’d be surprised.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 1:37 pm to
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You quite literally said that it works.



i mean, in theory, yeah it could, eventually. but that lacks panache.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 1:42 pm to
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i mean, in theory, yeah it could, eventually. but that lacks panache.


So now you're backing off your original statement? You're still a creeper
Posted by georgia
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 1:47 pm to
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If he persists itabsolutely is. He made a comment, she said “too far”, and he shut it down. I guess that all the text I saw. That’s always been the definition?




what part of "I blame your sexy arse" is him shutting it down?
the dude is creepy, and men shouldn't back that, it just gives men as a whole a bad name. She has a right to expect that business and pleasure do not mix, the same as any man in any situation. That being said, I wouldn't have "professional" drinks with anyone. People are stupid when they drink, and I don't ever want to be perceived as stupid, especially in a professional environment.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 1:50 pm to
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That being said, I wouldn't have "professional" drinks with anyone. People are stupid when they drink, and I don't ever want to be perceived as stupid, especially in a professional environment.


We have drinks with coworkers and clients all the time. Just last night, in fact. I can go have a beer or a cocktail and not say something inappropriate.

But I can also drink and not get fricked up because I'm not an alcoholic. I've never heard it referred to as "professional drinks," but it happens all the time.
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 1:52 pm to
I don't really have any beef with women pointing out inappropriate behavior from men.

Hey, it's somewhat anti-feminist of women to insinuate that there are distinct biological differences between men and women that make women more likely to be assaulted and harassed. I'll applaud reason and logic wherever I see it.

I DO have a problem with their current and continued misuse of their victimhood to downplay that of men who also feel victimized - by modern #metoo society.

"Aww poor white men. It must be SO HARD FOR YOU." - That kind of shite.

Just because, yes, women have more to worry about walking to their car at night, dating, etc. than men do does not mean that "all women should be believed" or that men can't be legitimate victims as well.

It's all bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted by oleheat
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:03 pm to
The guy probably was an idiot- but I'm not at all shocked her twitter account is filled with the usual young college chick "get Trump" BS.
Posted by georgia
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:03 pm to
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I don't really have any beef with women pointing out inappropriate behavior from men.



If someone is going to change they need to know that the unacceptable thing they have done is in fact unacceptable, and wont just be laughed off, so I agree.

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Hey, it's somewhat anti-feminist of women to insinuate that there are distinct biological differences between men and women that make women more likely to be assaulted and harassed.


I don't consider myself a feminist, but I do try to make sure that I am treated equally on issues where I am equally equipped and putting forth equal effort. I am realistic enough to realize that men and women are different, and that if we were smarter as a whole we would learn to use those differences to compliment our strengths and buoy our weaknesses to be a better species, rather than do this whole subservient thing that has been going on. That falls more to a respect issue between the sexes than anything else I believe.

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"Aww poor white men. It must be SO HARD FOR YOU." - That kind of shite.



I firmly believe that there is a war on white men in this country and it scares me for my son. I try to teach him balance and respect but also to be on his guard at all times.

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It's all bullshite.


its truth wrapped in a lot of bullshite, but if we're rational and realistic about our own shortcomings, the truth can be reached. most people would rather be defensive or victimized, its less effort for them, and people are fricking lazy.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89818 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Awwww. I feel so sorry for her and what she has to go through ? 
How could she ever live after such a tragic event. Props to the guy for trying to get laid. You won’t know until you ask. Very beta move by apologizing though. No one will ever try and hit on this chick again.



They want you to make the first move, but yet they don't.

It's not easy out there. Women coukd do everyone a favor and just be up front with what they want.

Problem is they change their mind multiple times a day.


I get that women get unsolicited dick pics, which I do think is wrong, but I receive unsolicited nudie pics from women.

It's a two way street and some of us don't want to be lumped in with some guy you had drinks with once.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:09 pm to
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They want you to make the first move, but yet they don't.

It's not easy out there. Women coukd do everyone a favor and just be up front with what they want.



You can make the first move and not sound like a rapist.

I swear some of you are so stupid I don't know how you tie your shoes.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:09 pm to
"Well I blame your sexy arse" made me
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:13 pm to
I don't know what is more cringeworthy

that text or some of the comments in this thread

yeesh

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89818 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:14 pm to
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You can make the first move and not sound like a rapist. 

I swear some of you are so stupid I don't know how you tie your shoes.


Lol, ok bud. I'm sure you are just an angel.

Posted by georgia
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:18 pm to
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They want you to make the first move, but yet they don't.




Because Professional boundaries should not exist where females are concerned? She should clutch her pearls and swoon at such a romantic gesture via text message?
Get.Over.Yourself. Miss me with that dumb shite.
Do you want one of your female clients to ask you for naked drinks? If you expect a level of professionalism then don't you think the same should be extended to every female regardless of her level of attraction?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Do you want one of your female clients to ask you for naked drinks?

there is one girl that I work with, every time I see her she comes up to me, grabs my hands and puts them on her boobs, even if her husband is right there, doesn't offend me, I think it's funny, her way of saying hello, it's good to see you again I guess
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89818 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:23 pm to
Where in my post did I say what he said was ok?

Now I will say, I have no idea how their convo went on the professional date.

But here y'all are making assumptions. Flying off the handle.

I actually have had female co-workers ask me out. I respectfully decline everytime. Never once have I crossed that boundary.




This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted by georgia
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:25 pm to
She thinks you're gay and harmless.
Posted by Haughtonboy
kansas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:26 pm to
“Professional drinks”...
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92280 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 2:27 pm to
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She thinks you're gay and harmless.

probably, speaking of gays, that's where the majority of inappropriate comments come from, some of it obvious baiting, and also probably because they know they're bullet proof, at least where I work
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