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re: The craziest/best poker call I've ever seen (270k pot)

Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:00 am to
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:00 am to
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Not that, just that there was almost assuredly no grudge. The production team left Live at the Bike and got Garrett to go with them. If they disliked him, they'd have left him at Live at the Bike.

Garrett is a big part of the show. Andy is probably #2. There is no Hustler stream without Garrett and Andy, almost assuredly.


Gotcha. Thanks for the background.

Do you have any take on what happened with the crew member stealing from her stack? Coincidence?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466848 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:00 am to
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A member of the crew skimming $15k just because he saw an opportunity is plausible enough, especially if he thought she "didn't deserve it." But the part where she didn't press charges is too freaking weird. A guy attempts to steal $15k from you and you're like "nah, it's no big deal."??

Relating to the cheating theory (I'm not claiming this as fact just putting these facts inside the theory):

This was likely his payment for giving her information. But with the extra scrutiny after this went viral, the casino security caught him. She doesn't want to press charges because then it opens her (and the "thief") up to more questions by actual authorities.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:03 am to
Dumb move even if they were in on it together. Just get cash from her later. Not chips in a casino where there are countless cameras. Even if it wasn't caught on camera, a crew member cashing in high value chips is going to raise eyebrows. Or you'll have to pay someone to do it for you. I don't get what any of them are thinking here.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 8:04 am
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:03 am to
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This was likely his payment for giving her information. But with the extra scrutiny after this went viral, the casino security caught him. She doesn't want to press charges because then it opens her (and the "thief") up to more questions by actual authorities.



Yeah, I think the same. I guess we just pinned them with different motives.

So purely an act of avarice and opportunity, you think?
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 8:05 am
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3078 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:06 am to
Funny business going on in high stakes poker…shocking.

It’s nothing new.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466848 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:06 am to
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So purely an act of avarice and opportunity, you think?

I don't know I'm just putting the facts within the cheating theory.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466848 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:07 am to
Chips make not reporting income much easier and come in higher denominations than cash money to make transport of the unreported income easier.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:08 am to
Yall act like you never played poker with women before.

You can make textbook plays, they counter with "I had a feeling"
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:09 am to
Hadn't seen the red ring theory yet, but just re-watched and - sure enough - yeah...that's extremely fishy, especially how she felt the need to put her hand below the table to remove/turn it. Way too many weird things going on with this situation.

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:25 am to
Well yeah, but you have to turn it into cash at some point, right?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466848 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:27 am to
Yeah it's an easy way to launder money and/or keep it off the IRS's radar.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:30 am to
I mentioned it a few days ago, but didn’t get any feedback
Posted by Bayou Brat
Member since Jul 2021
1023 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:33 am to
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Has the red ring been mentioned as a possible cheating device?


She had the ring examined by a jeweler with a reporter present to report the results.

The media is digging through her life. Here are some pics.











This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 8:37 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45906 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:38 am to
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The media is digging through her life. Here are some pics.


So now you’re accusing me of being media??
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4920 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:48 am to
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So not only do they force her to a backroom and shake her down to return the money, they steal her chips, WHILE they have her back there. What in the frick

It would have been a much shorter post to just have typed:

“I don’t have a clue about this story”
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4920 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:54 am to
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I've ran pretty well this morning in PLO6

PLO6…is that a new game with a 6 low qualifier rather than the typical 8?

Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
807 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:25 am to
Robbie posted an apparent message from the guy that took the $15k off of her stack. It’s pretty lengthy, so I’m not going to post it in here, but go read it. Very skeptical. Also, she claims she doesn’t know him, but they are following each other on Twitter.

And if this is a how your session went, got absolutely crushed in my local 1/2 game last night. Folded for 5 hours and only 3 hands of note I lost. Got flush over flushed for a nice pot, had KQss on a K43K8 board, ran into 33, then AAs in a 3 bet pot. Guy went x/c, x/c, lead on third spade. Of course he has the flush. The table was great though had well over $15k on in for a 1/2 game. Unfortunately couldn’t get anything going. Variance is a bitch
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 11:37 am
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3078 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 3:47 pm to
Ok, I haven’t delved too deeply into the cheating conspiracy but let’s say, she’s got someone seeing everyone’s hole cards. That someone can communicate via a buzzing red ring or some other shite.

Even with all that knowledge, are you making that call without knowing what was coming off the deck on the river?

I’m not.

So it has to be a rigged deck or the dealer involved right? Seems a little far fetched.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 4:07 pm
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
807 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 3:55 pm to
So, they could be buzzing her that she will have the best hand after the river. This is less likely as she decided to run it twice.

More likely, they buzzed her that she has the best hand and she didn’t realize how it’d look to the poker community.

Think about it like this. She wins the hand 55% of the time if she knows Garrett’s exact hand.

Not rigging the deck, reading the players hole cards.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41832 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 4:04 pm to
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More likely, they buzzed her that she has the best hand and she didn’t realize how it’d look to the poker community.


Remember he bet the turn right. She put in a small raise. Did she know then she was ahead? Then he shoved against her small bluff. Did she get confused? Would they buzz her again? Maybe all she knew was she was ahead. Then it was up to her.
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