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re: The black community's refusal to address this story invalidates their Sterling outrage

Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8794 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:03 pm to
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it sort of ups the ante of what the black community is embracing. So sorry if I disagree with you there.


I keep hearing about this black community but I never got the memo!

Once again, I can speak for myself. David Duke held political office in Louisiana and was almost governor. Can we then agree that by your logic he speaks for the white community?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66503 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:07 pm to
So you think a rapist won't do it again given the opportunity?

It's not a race issue with me.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33865 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:09 pm to
The majority don't care. Just like the monuments in new Orleans.

Did that stop the murder in st roch this morning? Nope, the majority doesn't care, never have and never will.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6288 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:10 pm to
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But at least try and understand the issue.



With very few exceptions, some moron doesn't do what the police tells them after they commit a crime, then cry racism because that's their go to excuse.

That's the issue. And most people understand it.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:10 pm to
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The argument for many here, is that white people are being put in cop cars while blacks are put in body bags.

Of course the stats don't add up, but there is fear and anger in their community.


Meh, I've never had an issue with police in the slightest. I think it's just easier to identify with a victim group and point the finger.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:11 pm to
Yep. My black business partners don't give two sh!ts about this.

Not unlike how I don't give a damn about white trash idiots at Walmart.

It's about class, not race.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108979 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:13 pm to
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Who you got Saturday?


The field.

This one seems pretty wide open. I'm putting money down on Patch for shits and giggles. There's been a lot of good talk about Classic Empire though. Gotta keep an eye on the weather as well.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:32 pm to
Don't defend feelings.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8079 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:49 pm to
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It's not about the Alton Sterlings or Michael Browns. There is this feeling that police have itchy trigger fingers when confronting black people. The argument for many here, is that white people are being put in cop cars while blacks are put in body bags. Of course the stats don't add up, but there is fear and anger in their community. That's what this is all about, but the media and powerful interest groups have let the whole thing jump the shark.


That feeling you refer to is a victim card played up by a bunch of special interest. There is money and power in fear. Lots of it.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60245 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:22 pm to
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How about we start by no longer grouping all blacks together as if we have some hive mentality.


quote:

people choose to raise up the ignorant individuals who bark the loudest and decide to allow them to speak for the whole.





You answered your own question.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8794 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:27 pm to
What exactly is this suppose to prove besides my point?

I can google pictures of black people minding their own business...

I can google pictures of white groups marching and protesting...

I can google pictures of white people minding their own business.

What are you trying to prove besides the fact that approximately 20 black people and a white guy? all speak for the entire black race or at the very least the majority?

This is the type of ignorance I am talking about. If I posted pictures of a klan rally I would be downvoted and people would exclaim the klan is a joke or that group is a joke. However, when I point out the same thing on the opposite side, people choose to see it differently.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
60245 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:00 pm to
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What are you trying to prove besides the fact that approximately 20 black people and a white guy? all speak for the entire black race or at the very least the majority?


There's nothing to "prove" but there is something to be seen if you're willing to look and listen.

What we (whites) see when something like an Alton Sterling or Michael Brown happen is uniformity of thought coming from the black community plastered on every channel and on every newspaper's front page. There are differences of thought but either those differences are so few or those that differ are so silent as to not receive (much less demand) notice.

We see the outside agitators come in and burn your businesses and loot. We don't see you standing outside your businesses armed and fighting them off.

We see the anguish and cries of "no justice, no peace" before all the facts are known, but if those facts come out and they prove your stance to be in err we not only don't see an acknowledgement of justice being done, we see either more laments of how justice has failed or an immediate silence.

There are other voices in the black community, I hear them in one-on-one conversations and on the rare black conservative radio shows. Where they aren't heard (or at least heard nearly enough) though is in the heat of troubles, calling for calm and holding troublemakers from within their own ranks accountable. They aren't seen protesting outside of known crack dens or outside the home of some young black man that's killed another young black man.

Where was Mayor Broome this week calling for out of town agitators to stay out? Where were any leaders from the black community calling press conferences to say that?

That's where the hive mind mentality meme comes from and why it will continue to be there, at least until enough blacks that don't ascribe to it start making themselves seen and heard.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144671 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:18 pm to
Pete, you seem level headed.

I hope you post more often.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59345 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:20 pm to
Bro settle down, if we want your opinion we will ask for it. Until then just stick to posting your personal cry baby problems in the 50 other threads
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8794 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:21 pm to
If you say so. You are ignoring my points and holding on to your tired reasoning.

Let me ask you a question and I would like an honest answer. Why do I have to say anything? Why would you expect any black person to have to say anything?

In my opinion it is only the individuals who are intellectually weak who are unable to use true discernment. Over 99% of our city is going on with their day, but because you click on Facebook and see a post that upsets you, then that person must speak for all.

I also noticed that you ignored my David Duke question. Since he is a white politician I and a person in the news, does he represent your views? The views of all whites? If you disagree with his opinions and words would you like to apologize to me and all blacks?

Now, we both know that won't happen, nor would any reasonable person have these expectations. Shouldn't that standard apply both ways? I could keep going but I will stop now. Either you get it or you don't. If you want to continue this conversation leave me an email and we can correspond if you like.

ETA: I'm sure we could find some real gems on political talk shows that are more white I suppose...

I'd be willing to bet we share many of the same values.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 10:26 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:16 pm to
David Duke's gubernatorial run came up in a conversation with some friends a couple of weeks ago. Most were of the opinion that Duke got crushed and "nobody" voted for him. So I looked it up:
Something a bit over 670,000 votes that constituted 38.8% of the vote. I'm guessing those were mostly white people. And they weren't all Edwards protest votes either.

There is no doubt in my mind that Alton Sterling was a piece of shite and, aside from some immediate family members and very close friends, the planet isn't going to miss him one bit. I don't know proper police procedure, but it isn't like these two cops rolled up and starting shooting. I've seen a couple of the videos - the audio is terrible. The one cop who tried to take Sterling down initially - hit him at the waist and drove him into the hood of the car - may have been over-aggressive. But past that, the guy should have complied (Actually, he should have complied from the get go. He'd probably be back in prison, but he'd be alive). The cop has a pistol against Sterling's chest and said several times things like "I will shoot you.", "Don't make me shoot you." How can anyone be surprised he got shot? For the life of me, I don't understand how anyone can defend his actions.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:20 pm to
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Ignoring trash like Trudy White and allowing her to run unchecked by the black community is not helping their cause. They want accountability? They better start demanding some within their own people.

You seem to feel a separation from your black countrymen.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:24 pm to
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I've never had an issue with police in the slightest
I have been picked up by the police for walking down the street. They accused me of assaulting a white kid twice my age. They pulled up to the white kid and asked "Is this him?". Basically, all the white kid had to do was say "yep!" and my life would have been changed forever.

My point is that just because you have never been jacked up by the police for walking while black doesn't mean it isn't a thing.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89823 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:27 pm to
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There are people on this very board who defended Dylan Roof,


I don't recall a single instance of ANYONE who defended this jackass.

I could be wrong, there may have been SOMEBODY. I probably didn't see EVERY post made. But if there was, it was an absolute EXTREME outlier.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:44 pm to
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There are people on this very board who defended Dylan Roof
bullshite.

Please link any posts defending that POS.

You're lying.
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