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re: The Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Animated
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:22 pm to grizzlylongcut
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:22 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I mean that there’s no such thing as war crime.
As has been shown to you on several occasions, you’re wrong. You may not like it, and that’s fine, but you’re wrong.
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Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:26 pm to Mo Jeaux
When has whether or not there is such a thing as war criminality ever stopped a warring party from doing something that it thought would help them win the war?
It’s the same thing with “international law” it’s a dumbass concept that no nation actually follows. Least of all the United States. And nor should we.
There’s never, not one time, ever been a war in which atrocities do not occur. From Cain killing Abel to the Ukraine-Russia war. So, it seems to me, until you’re willing to admit that all war is a criminal act, none of it is.
It’s the same thing with “international law” it’s a dumbass concept that no nation actually follows. Least of all the United States. And nor should we.
There’s never, not one time, ever been a war in which atrocities do not occur. From Cain killing Abel to the Ukraine-Russia war. So, it seems to me, until you’re willing to admit that all war is a criminal act, none of it is.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:30 pm to Mo Jeaux
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This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:32 pm to grizzlylongcut
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When has whether or not there is such a thing as war crimes ever stopped a warring party from doing something that it thought would help them win the war?
So do you not believe any criminal laws exist? This is an odd premise.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:33 pm to Harry Morgan
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quote:???????????????
Huh?
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:35 pm to Mo Jeaux
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So do you not believe any criminal laws exist? This is an odd premise.
Holy straw man.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:36 pm to grizzlylongcut
Yes, that was. But what you’re arguing is odd.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:43 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I mean that there’s no such thing as war crime.
You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:45 pm to Mo Jeaux
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An attack on a military target.
I do understand the concept of a war crime, but in the case of nuking Japan, I dont believe it would fall under that definition. Both cities had a significant number of military targets which could've obviously been targeted with conventional bombs and no one wouldve considered that a war crime. So the thing in this case would be the difference from the fallout from the weapon itself of said military attack. And if civilian deaths as the result of a military attack are in itself a war crime, every bomb ever dropped on a factory or munitions plant where private citizens are known to be present would be considered a war crime as well, no?
Of course I am by no means knowledgeable of what exactly constitutes a war crime, but if that indeed meets the definition, you are on a slippery slope every time a bomb is dropped.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:45 pm to thejuiceisloose
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You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Has there ever been a humane war?
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:58 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Has there ever been a humane war?
There has not but we have differentiated war from civil life.
Example: soldier are not prosecuted for murder when they kill their soldier adversaries in the course of regular warfare (exclusion are torture etc.)
War brings on a different set of "rules" (Geneva Convention, International Criminal Court)
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:07 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Does not mean that there’s such thing as a war crime.
Can you explain your point? Repeating it just makes me assume you can not articulate your thoughts.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:09 pm to Damone
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France won WWI on the battlefield and Russia won WWII
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:16 pm to thejuiceisloose
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War brings on a different set of "rules"
Lol, sure.
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Geneva Convention
Which nations routinely wipe their asses with in warfare.
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International Criminal Court
Which nations routinely laugh at.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:17 pm to Obtuse1
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Can you explain your point? Repeating it just makes me assume you can not articulate your thoughts.
I already have.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:31 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I already have.
Does that explanation really make sense to you though?
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:39 pm to sta4ever
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If only we used Fat Man on Moscow…
That's what Patton wanted Truman to do.
Looking back, we should of listened to him.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:41 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I already have.
Can you link the post?
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:51 pm to grizzlylongcut
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What’s a war crime? Please, tell us what a war crime is.
IIf the winning side commits a so-called "war crime" then who is going to prosecute them for this? Had the Nazi's won who would've conducted Nuremberg? Would what the Nazi's did still be a "war crime"? IThere is no such thing as a "war crime". The winning side does as it pleases after the war.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:57 pm to Obtuse1
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This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 8:32 am
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