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re: The Allies began firebombing Dresden on this day 80 years ago...

Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69228 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:11 pm to
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If Germans had won WW2, the history would be recorded as Germans reclaiming land that was once theirs, expelling disruptive people that were promoting degeneracy and communism and fighting off foreign warmongerers that refused peace at every turn.


Yes, because Germany controlled an area of Europe from France's Bay of Biscay to Russia's Ural Mountains in the ancient past.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37739 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:12 pm to
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hat refused peace at every turn.


You are too stupid to live. It’s a shame your entire family tree wasn’t incinerated at Dresden.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3425 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:16 pm to
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You are too stupid to live. It’s a shame your entire family tree wasn’t incinerated at Dresden.

I think his point was that it's the victors that write the accounts. Theoretically, to the victorious Germans, the propaganda would read that they tried to offer peace.

That's what I got from his post, anyway.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:22 pm to
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I think his point was that it's the victors that write the accounts. Theoretically, to the victorious Germans, the propaganda would read that they tried to offer peace. That's what I got from his post, anyway.


REG is an angry little elf that cant control his emotions long enough to apply simple reading comprehension
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5433 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:22 pm to
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If Germans had won WW2, the history would be recorded as Germans reclaiming land that was once theirs, expelling disruptive people that were promoting degeneracy and communism and fighting off foreign warmongerers that refused peace at every turn.


I still think exterminating European Jews would be part of their recorded history even in victory.

Unless . . .
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disruptive people


Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
24775 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Don’t know if this is a troll


So in your mind, once Germany had defeated the Allies in Europe, they simply would have stopped gassing Jews and went back to making fine tools?

They would have immediately joined Japan in its quest and united they would have turned their attention towards America.

By this point, America would have been broken, an entire generation of men gone. Not to mention, Germany would now own the brightest scientific minds in the world….ones who would deliver both a nuclear weapon and the ability to eventually deliver it.

Nah, I’m happy they fire bombed their asses.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Yes, because Germany controlled an area of Europe from France's Bay of Biscay to Russia's Ural Mountains in the ancient past.


They weren’t trying to conquer the world. The invasion of the Soviet Union was driven by what they saw as the inherent and serious threat of communism.

If Pilsudski had lived longer, the Poles may have invaded alongside the Germans, the way Hitler hoped.
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1851 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:31 pm to
This right here.

The people who weep for Dresden rarely have a tear to shed for London, Liverpool or Coventry.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 5:08 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37739 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:31 pm to
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REG is an angry little elf that cant control his emotions long enough to apply simple reading comprehension


I’m not the one weeping over today’s anniversary.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:32 pm to
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What were they?


Jews were the driving force of communism and degeneracy in Weimar Republic. A lot of the transgender madness we see today, started there

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Talk about framing something to your liking. Also coming out of WWII was globalization, mass industrialization, and a gigantic boom of the global middles class. The life of the average human being got significantly better after the economic and technological advances that are direct results of WWII.



The advance of technology and industry was inevitable

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Only one side consistently and continuously participated in the genocide of an entire people and routine human experimentation, and it wasn’t just Germans.


This is where history isnt always so rosy. The very same claim could be made of the US with indians as well as the inhumane human experimentation
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3425 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:34 pm to
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The invasion of the Soviet Union was driven by what they saw as the inherent and serious threat of communism.

Meh, I think it was more that Lebensraum was their version of Manifest Destiny. They used the American example of moving indigenous people off of their lands, and into camps, while taking over the land and making it more productive. The Germans were just as interested in exterminating Slavs as they were Jews. It's just that they were generally able to get more work out of the Slavs before they died than Jews. While the 6 million Jews killed is often referred to, I'm pretty sure just as many Slavs died in death and labor camps as Jews - not to mention all the Slavs killed on the battlefields of the Eastern Front.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:35 pm to
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quote:REG is an angry little elf that cant control his emotions long enough to apply simple reading comprehension I’m not the one weeping over today’s anniversary.


Your panties are definitely in a wad though. Youre just a little bitch that talks big on the internet because you are too much of a coward to do it in real life
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
6660 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:36 pm to
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don't understand how anyone can justify killing innocent children and women in fire.

When the Russians finally fought their way into Germany in ‘45, many of them raped German daughters in front of mothers and wives in front of their husbands. Dan Carlin said the Russians entered one of the first German villages and raped women and crucified them to barn doors.

This is detestable 100%, but the Germans started committing horrible atrocities toward the Russians starting from Barbarossa onward. It sucks, but you reap what you sow.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Germany


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weren’t trying to conquer the world

Jesus
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:39 pm to
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So in your mind, once Germany had defeated the Allies in Europe, they simply would have stopped gassing Jews and went back to making fine tools? They would have immediately joined Japan in its quest and united they would have turned their attention towards America. By this point, America would have been broken, an entire generation of men gone. Not to mention, Germany would now own the brightest scientific minds in the world….ones who would deliver both a nuclear weapon and the ability to eventually deliver it. Nah, I’m happy they fire bombed their asses.


Again, yall are letting your emotions cloud your reasoning. My point was that if Germany had won, they would have framed the war in a way that made them look as good as possible. I dont know how much more obvious I could have been
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22686 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:45 pm to
scottydoesntknow basic history.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37739 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:46 pm to
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Again, yall are letting your emotions cloud your reasoning. My point was that if Germany had won, they would have framed the war in a way that made them look as good as possible. I dont know how much more obvious I could have been


Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41130 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Jews were the driving force of communism and degeneracy in Weimar Republic.


Not sure about driving force but certainly were among many of the most vocal supporters of/members of these new, progressive parties that Hitler saw as the fracturing of the home front.

I think we probably have a similar view here.

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This is where history isnt always so rosy. The very same claim could be made of the US with indians as well as the inhumane human experimentation


You said during WWII, not in the entire history of our country. During WWII there was a clear good versus evil
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69228 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:51 pm to
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They weren’t trying to conquer the world.


I'm fairly certain I never claimed that.

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The invasion of the Soviet Union was driven by what they saw as the inherent and serious threat of communism.


And also for the vast land and resources the Soviet Union could provide for the peoples of the Third Reich. The man wrote about it and spoke about it for almost 20 years before it finally happened.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 1:52 pm
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:53 pm to
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scottydoesntknow basic history.


Scotty has at least taken a trip to Europe
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