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re: That Little Lawsuit Against Uber Just Got Bigger — And Could Take Them Down

Posted on 12/12/15 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 12:57 pm to
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isnt their valuation at $51 BILLION right now ?



Pretty sure it's $70B. This is not taking them down. Class very doesn't mean the suit is legit or likely to succeed.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 1:11 pm to
My younger sister is in college in California. She doesn't have her car up there, so she has to get Uber/cabs to go places almost every day. She started out using cabs, but they were completely unreliable, took too long to get there, were dirty and smelled, and the drivers were disgusting. She quit using cabs after the first week and a half, and exclusively uses Uber. She has nothing but praise for them.

If these stupid fricks screw this up and everyone has to go back to trashy cabs, I'm gonna punch my neighbor's cat. It's typical union bullshite to want more from a company, not realizing that it'll just close and they'll be out of a job if they win.
This post was edited on 12/12/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 1:50 pm to
Maybe California will make it illegal for a company like this to require de facto employees to be independent contractors and to carry the burden of associated costs, as a condition of employment.

They can call it "Right To Work."
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 2:06 pm to
A federal judge is going to take down a +50 billion dollar company?

Wake the frick up.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7193 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 2:34 pm to
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ber doesn't have that magical status of being regulated like taxis are. states, esp authoritarian ones likes california, can't stand an idea being so progressive that it consistently avoids their grasp. their whole government complex is built on an insatiable desire to control the lives of its citizenry.

I am fairly conservative, both fiscally and socially; but some regulation is necessary. I do understand the argument that uber skirts past certain safety regulations do to its unique contractor system. Not abiding by the same rules as others that you are directly competing with is not a good thing for the free market system. Admittedly this is not the point of this lawsuit but I do agree with the judge possibly being in on the fix, so to speak.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55413 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 4:12 pm to
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Is the Work an Integral Part of the Employer’s Business?


i think this is what will get Uber drivers classified as Uber employees...

without them Uber could not exist

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Does the Worker’s Managerial Skill Affect the Worker’s Opportunity for Profit or Loss?


i would say so... if you don't accept rides you won't get paid. if you get bad reviews you don't get rides and get paid

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How Does the Worker’s Relative Investment Compare to the Employer’s Investment


the employer built the app, advertises to increase the user base. the drivers provide cars and maintain them

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Does the Work Performed Require Special Skill and Initiative?


anyone who can drive and knows their way around a city can do it

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Is the Relationship between the Worker and the Employer Permanent or Indefinite?


you accept rides until you don't

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What is the Nature and Degree of the Employer’s Control?


there's the common sense things like you can't decline every ride, you can't be getting bad reviews, etc., but there's no boss to report to. you make your own hours
This post was edited on 12/12/15 at 4:20 pm
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7087 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 4:20 pm to
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quote: Is the Work an Integral Part of the Employer’s Business?

i think this is what will get Uber drivers classified as Uber employees... without them Uber could not exist


Is the work a framer does an integral part of a contractors business?
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 4:33 pm to
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Of topic, but I think it's bullshite that Orlando airport banned uber. A taxi from MCO to hotel by Disney is $60. Uber would be like $20


Again, this is Union shite. The unionized airports ban Uber there to stand with the unionized taxi companies.

All you have to do is get a short, cheap taxi ride outside of the airport gates and then call an Uber.
This post was edited on 12/12/15 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 4:36 pm to
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some regulation is necessary


No, it isn't. Über self regulates with the rating system. It's the free market. It is a much better system than government regulation which is just some bullshite excuse for the government to collect fees.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 4:55 pm to
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unionized airports ban Uber there to stand with the unionized taxi companies.



Wrong. That is business interests lobbying local and state governments to keep things rigged in their favor.

The taxi association is not a labor union. A lot of these areas that are imposing price floors on Uber are not liberal Union-loving democrats. In many cases they are "small government conservatives."

It's similar to Texas not allowing Tesla to circumvent the car dealers.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10746 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:46 pm to
SJW try to ruin another good thing I see.

They make good money for zero skill. Now they want to be overvalued just like the McDonald's employees. Sad.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:52 pm to
dumbshits

Uber can just go away and they can go back to paying several hundred thou for the artificially scarce cab medallions in larger cities
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