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re: that hate for personal injury attorneys
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:17 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:17 pm to boosiebadazz
A verbose way to say yeah the case was purported. The system allows a rinse and repeat whereas insurance has to evaluate a value on whether or not to contest. It’s a very established construct. I personally don’t care that much outside of my insurance premiums. This is how it works though. Objectively, yes it’s problematic
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:18 pm to NIH
He’s not an injury attorney I don’t think
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:23 pm to ScottAndrew
Right
I had to sit through a few of those in my first few years
I had to sit through a few of those in my first few years
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:35 pm to JudgeHolden
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What I don’t like is lawyers turned marketers who work on volume and settle cases for cents on the dollar.
i can respect that. but what do we mean "cents on the dollar?" If a client is content with his net on 8k plus meds on a 5 month soft tissue case and not have to file, is it really worth it to take to trial 2 years later and get 12k plus meds? id say not, but its the client's call.
i do appreciate the feedback here. even from those who hate me or my profession. to me that just shows we have work to do in overcoming the bias planted by the insurance/business industry. perhaps some of that ad money can be directed to those efforts rather than catchy jingles.
I have worked both sides and can promise you the insurance industry plays a part in these sky high verdicts. i had more than a few trials where had my client just been reasonable and offered something within my range of potential judgment value, the case would have settled and we would not have gotten hit with a big judgment/verdict.
as for the guy wondering why we dont take a set fee, well the vast majority of individuals cannot afford a retainer and hourly rate. the contingency fee represents the risk we undertake, the work we put into the case, etc etc.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:40 pm to midcitycid
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First question asked : "what kind of injury do you have?
id say it is kind of an important question. If you have no injury, then there really is nothing to claim.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:42 pm to midcitycid
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LABI would be proud that youre using one of their talking points. Nevermind that we have by and large a poorly trained workforce, our infrastructure is crap etc
I don't know who is LABI, and I am not impressed by your deflection.
Personal injury lawyers are poison for business, jobs, and insurance costs. The end.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:42 pm to midcitycid
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we have work to do in overcoming the bias planted by the insurance/business industry
It’s the insurance industry blaring cheese dick car wreck attorney commercials 24/7?
It’s the insurance industry staging hundreds of fake accidents with 18 wheelers?
It’s the insurance industry With cheesy arse billboards every mile along the interstates in some places?
Your biggest enemy is yourself.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:46 pm to Turf Taint
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Personal injury lawyers are poison for business, jobs, and insurance costs. The end
certainly, you are entitled to your opinion. So ban them. by your rationale, if there were no personal injury attorneys, business would be booming, jobs would be plenty and insurance premiums would be super low.
do you really believe that would be the case?
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:48 pm to midcitycid
As a non lawyer who understands little other than bird law lawyerings why exactly does one choose the PI route?
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:49 pm to midcitycid
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do you really believe that would be the case?
So many of the views in this thread are:
Knee jerk
Simplistic
Uninformed
Naive
Etc.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:50 pm to Lakeboy7
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If you have a good case and know what you are doing it doesnt matter what jurisdiction you are in state or federal.
CDC says hi.
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Honestly you get a better cut of defense lawyer in federal court
Insurance companies don’t assign counsel based on fed vs state court. So i don’t think it matters in the regard you state.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:54 pm to midcitycid
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to me that just shows we have work to do in overcoming the bias planted by the insurance/business industry
Where are these commercials by insurance companies or business industries planting this bias? Have you considered that maybe intelligent people just understand that your profession has morphed into a systematic leeching off of the insurance industry and, by extension, our wallets via the premiums we have to pay to protect our assets from your clients?
For every plaintiff you send for treatment long enough to exhaust a policy, there’s a policy holder getting a letter telling him that his insurance company just paid a load of money to someone he knows wasn’t injured.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:57 pm to Sun God
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why exactly does one choose the PI route
i for one got tired of measuring my worth as an attorney in tenths of an hour (never pass up a billing opportunity!); being a slave to reporting requirements; being a cog in a machine; fighting about conditions on the ground locally with some adjuster in upstate new york who has no idea what a jury in Avoyelles Parish might be like, etc etc
on this side, if i do good by a client, i have helped that person--the gratitude is real. the risks are higher--a case could go belly up and i have to eat the costs. and if i dont settle, i dont eat.
and yes, the opportunity to earn more is there too, but is by no stretch of the imagination guaranteed.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:01 pm to midcitycid
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I do good by a client
Let’s be honest here - for most soft tissue cases, the wreck is the best economic news these folk could’ve hoped for.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:07 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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For every plaintiff you send for treatment long enough to exhaust a policy, there’s a policy holder getting a letter telling him that his insurance company just paid a load of money to someone he knows wasn’t injured.
And here are some misconceptions. 1) Pre-suit we do not know what policy limits are, unless it is one of the non-standard insurers that only write 15/30s (Go Auto etc).
2) i for one do not "send" my clients to treat for any pre-set amount of time. if they feel better after a month of therapy then we will look to wrap it up.
3) how does your policy holder know my client was not injured? does he have access to my client's prior medical history? is he a medical professional? is he aware whether my client is an eggshell?
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:08 pm to boosiebadazz
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Paying bills without a liability settlement is a waiver of prescription and still leaving their insured on the hook while admitting to liability.
So it’s not really about doing right by the claimant; it’s about maintaining legal leverage over them?
Double down! Double down!
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:08 pm to midcitycid
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by your rationale, if there were no personal injury attorneys, business would be booming, jobs would be plenty and insurance premiums would be super low. do you really believe that would be the case?
Indeed, one critical barrier to success would be removed.
If only life were so simple.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:09 pm to NIH
I’ve never come across a PI attorney that didn’t exaggerate the claim. 25 years.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:15 pm to midcitycid
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3) how does your policy holder know my client was not injured? does he have access to my client's prior medical history? is he a medical professional? is he aware whether my client is an eggshell?
We’ll there’s your problem, all these people involved in minor collisions just don’t appreciate how susceptible your clients are to injury. You just gotta educate them more and they’ll understand your noble calling and their own ignorance to your clients’ serious and permanent injuries.
That sanctimonious attitude is exactly why people don’t like you and your profession. Your client is definitely an eggshell, not a liar, never a liar.
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