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re: that hate for personal injury attorneys

Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22701 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:08 pm to
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we perform a service


A service that you pretty much created that is mostly an American phenomenon

And if you perform a service, why dont you charge a rate for that service rather than a % of an award?

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cant tell you how many rock-ribbed conservative types have come to me bitching and moaning about how they havent been treated fairly etc. by an insurance company. who do they turn to?


Yeah no shite they turn to you. The rate of lawsuits on insurance claims is so high they would rather not pay and let those that want to sue go for it.

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GEICO, Allstate et al can have tv commercials every 5 minutes, yet i never hear complaints.


Yeah they suck horribly, people bitch about insurance constantly, you should come to my house.

Lawyers are leaches on commerce. Anytime money changes hands, lawyers find a way to get them a piece. They start advertising the day after a hurricane but in reality you ought to get what you can before hiring one, both as a matter of good faith and protecting the money that is contractually owed to you by your policy and not give 30% away. On the flip side, people with no damage hire a lawyer immediately and get paid for shite that isn’t broken while the rest of us are trying to fix our shite.

I don’t hate lawyers or specifically PI by any stretch, it can be a very noble profession. But by and large lawyers have caused insurance rates to increase and payouts without lawyers to decrease. Again, it’s what lawyers do, they insert themselves into transactions, deal with it.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84488 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:09 pm to
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PI attorneys' constant refrain. "But, but they're unethical too!"


You’re going to have unethical people in every business. But in this industry, only one side has a billion-dollar lobbying and PR arm blaming the other guy.
Posted by Sisselpud81
Member since Jan 2022
635 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:12 pm to
Hi I'm Gordon Mckernan. I just got a new dog so I figured I'd make a fuggin commercial about it.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6044 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:12 pm to
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I’d start by hiring more adjusters to lower their claim load so they can give more attention to individual claimants. I’d also suggest paying medical bills early and upfront outside of medpay coverage as a show of good faith.


First point isn’t a claim handling practice. Second point, medpay coverage pays out as soon as bills and corresponding medical records are produced. There is no “show of good faith” involved, the mpc exists to pay those bills as soon as possible.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84488 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:15 pm to
I’m aware of how the coverages work. I’m suggesting ways to keep claimants from running to a lawyer. Don’t let adjusters leave 4 voicemails unreturned because they have too many claims at a time. Pay the ER bill out of the liability coverage if it’s clear cut. Throw in $500 for their pain and suffering without releasing the claim as a whole showing you understand what they’re going through. Be more collaborative with Joe Six Pack and he won’t feel the need to walk into my office because they’re getting the runaround on what should be a straightforward claim.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21544 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:20 pm to
If the plaintiff bar is truly there for the little people, as EWE's firm always proclaimed, Bart's as well, why does the plaintiff bar use call screeners all the time? First question asked : "what kind of injury do you have?" Paying medical bills prior to settlement as a sign of good faith? Good faith? The plaintiff bar? Good Lord.....
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:21 pm to
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personal injury attorneys
are only second to payday loan sharks.
“It’s not the size of the wreck, it’s the size of the check”
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6044 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:31 pm to
Paying bills without a liability settlement is a waiver of prescription and still leaving their insured on the hook while admitting to liability. Somehow I doubt your clients are only showing up for help after months of repeat bills from the ER.
Posted by B2 Bomber
Member since Sep 2016
344 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:35 pm to
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midcitycid


What law school did you attend? I bet they are ashamed of you because your post reads like dogshit. Have you heard of capital letters?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78074 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:35 pm to
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You’re going to have unethical people in every business. But in this industry, only one side has a billion-dollar lobbying and PR arm blaming the other guy
"Look over there, not at me!"
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6044 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:38 pm to
I’d like to know about the unethical defense lawyers and how they are getting away with costing plaintiffs money if we’re drawing an equivalence to unethical plaintiff lawyers bringing bogus claims.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84488 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:41 pm to
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I’d like to know about the unethical defense lawyers and how they are getting away with costing plaintiffs money if we’re drawing an equivalence to unethical plaintiff lawyers bringing bogus claims.


Sure. Here you go:

LINK
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38906 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:41 pm to
They absolutely serve a place for people seriously injured in car accidents. But mostly y’all just pander to shaniqua who gets 50k for faking neck pain after getting in a fender bender

They mostly are total scum
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 8:42 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84488 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:43 pm to
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Paying bills without a liability settlement is a waiver of prescription and still leaving their insured on the hook while admitting to liability.


So it’s not really about doing right by the claimant; it’s about maintaining legal leverage over them?
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6044 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:46 pm to
Removals to federal court making plaintiff attorneys do a little more work to oppose is your idea of an equivalence to the millions being paid out in excessive claims brought by plaintiff lawyers? Figures
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:50 pm to
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midcitycid


I respect good PI lawyers. What I don’t like is lawyers turned marketers who work on volume and settle cases for cents on the dollar.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6044 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:51 pm to
What you’re advocating for is a no fault, every person insures themselves type of insurance regime. The insurance company’s customer is their insured, not the claimant. I’m sure the insured would really appreciate being walked into an excess judgment because their insurance company thought it would be a good idea to just throw money at every claimant without securing a release of their insured. Remove the risk to the insured and you would likely find claims handled much differently.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28233 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:01 pm to
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Removals to federal court making plaintiff attorneys do a little more work to oppose is your idea of an equivalence to the millions being paid out in excessive claims brought by plaintiff lawyers? Figures



If you have a good case and know what you are doing it doesnt matter what jurisdiction you are in state or federal. Honestly you get a better cut of defense lawyer in federal court and you let them flog the file then mediate.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44837 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:10 pm to
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Seeing accidents with sub-$1000 in property damage result in 5 figure bodily injury claim payouts is usually a good reason why people hate PI lawyers.



That
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119925 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:13 pm to
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Pure acting


You should attend some Plaintiff’s bar webinars or CLEs

Lots of the heavy hitters have convinced themselves that they’re doing the Lord’s work - at 33-40%
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