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re: Texas Governor: Churches Open for Business!

Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:04 pm to
What a fricking idiot.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:06 pm to
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We can go pretty far if we really want to protect the greater good and prevent anything harmful from happening to people. We can start by lowering all speed limits to 10 mph or just banning vehicles. You don't have an absolute right to drive, especially on public roads.


Yes, we could do all of those things, but there is no compelling reason to do so. Managing a raging pandemic is a compelling state interest by any reasonable standard
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:10 pm to
Unfortunately a significant portion of the population has demonstrated that they don't give a frick about anyone but themselves and will not voluntarily act in a reasonable manner or in the interest of their fellow citizens. Look at the churches in Florida, Louisiana, and Liberty University for what happens when given the freedom to do the right thing voluntarily.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Managing a raging pandemic is a compelling state interest by any reasonable standard


You can do that without using government force to close private entities or abandoning the Constitution.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Yes, we could do all of those things, but there is no compelling reason to do so. Managing a raging pandemic is a compelling state interest by any reasonable standard


Having the governor advise people not to assemble without doing it at gunpoint is a reasonable standard.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139230 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:15 pm to
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Unfortunately a significant portion of the population has demonstrated that they don't give a frick about anyone but themselves and will not voluntarily act in a reasonable manner or in the interest of their fellow citizens. Look at the churches in Florida, Louisiana, and Liberty University for what happens when given the freedom to do the right thing voluntarily.

Yet no one will bat an eye at a jam packed Walmart or grocery store. This is all semantics driven by people who can't think pragmatically.
Posted by Tomherman
Member since Sep 2016
2054 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:18 pm to
I'm sure your sister is so excited
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Unfortunately a significant portion of the population has demonstrated that they don't give a frick about anyone but themselves and will not voluntarily act in a reasonable manner or in the interest of their fellow citizens.


This is every single day in the United States when people's selfish actions harm others.


Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:22 pm to
People will die if they don't have food. They won't die from watching church on a livestream for a few Sundays.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139230 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:23 pm to
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People will die if they don't have food. They won't die from watching church on a livestream for a few Sundays.


Not surprisingly, you completely missed the point there
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:34 pm to
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This is how it needs to be.

The church can handle the situation appropriately without being forced to at gunpoint.




Are churches enforcing social distancing or are they just letting a large crowd of people fill up their church like it normally does? If they are just letting a large crowd of people fill up the church like normal then it is completely irresponsible.

Of course, you have some of these preachers/pastors who think they are able to pray away this shite.. But I guess it only works on people who attend their church because otherwise, shouldn't they be able to pray for COVID19 to be eliminated from every part of the Earth?

But hey.. If someone goes to church who is a carrier and they pass it on to 4 people, 1 of the 4 gets sick, the other 3 are just carriers but the following week they all go to church and pass it on to 4 other people, thats 12 more people.. 3 of those people get sick.. Then you have all these people who are carriers.. After church, they go to the grocery store where they are around a completely different group of people.. But at least they were able to go to church right?

So if churches can open, then there is no reason the card game I play in on Mondays, which has been canceled the past 2 weeks shouldn't be canceled. So what if 1 or the 15-18 people who play is carrying it.. There are older men who play. one has a wife recovering from cancer.. We can tell him its safe for him to come play.. What's it matter if someone passes it to him, he then passes it to his wife who doesn't have the strongest immune system at the moment.. It could put her life in harms way, but hey.. At least we still get together to play cards. As long as we get to do what we want, who cares about other people?

Seriously, that's basically what the churches and their people are saying "At least I get to go to church. Sure there are people I am around outside of church who I could put at risk, but what does that matter as long as I can go to church".
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:23 pm
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