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re: Texans facing up to 10k electric bill

Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:15 am to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24477 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:15 am to
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Keep voting republican


0/10
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12446 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:16 am to
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If you considered personal responsibility a downside I suppose you’re right these high electric bills are because people were playing the market and not locking in a rate.

I have a locked in rate of $0.123 per KWH, that is what I pay period. For me to get a boll in the thousands I would have to be burning a shite ton of electric.



99% of people are not going to do a particularly good risk assessment on this.

We teach them almost nothing about good financial choices and then toss them into the world expecting them to have learned it quite well on their own.

I’m all about personal responsibility but also try to acknowledge reality alongside it. On a residential rig, even if it brings up the minimum rate, the highest rate should likely cap at some point
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:17 am to
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Keep voting republican



You fricking vermin, this is anecdotal bullshite. I just looked at my bill, it will be $40 this month instead of the $31.53 last month.

I won't vote Republican but I will vote as conservatively as possible
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6745 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:18 am to
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They have options on who their electricity provider is?
Ya see that’s the problem.

We need the government to choose our electric provider for us. The government knows best.
Posted by LSUKTR
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1489 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:19 am to
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PrimetimeDaBoss


Because ppl need someone to protect them from their own bad decisions?

I’m good, I’ll take care of me.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24477 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:21 am to
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We teach them almost nothing about good financial choices and then toss them into the world expecting them to have learned it quite well on their own.

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Those classes have been replaced with African American studies and other SJW bullshite classes.
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
2189 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:24 am to
Agreed. These folks typically enjoyed lower rates playing the market; but in this instance it bit them.

It's like playing the stock market, and wanting your money back at the end of the day.

How about a little personal responsibility.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18843 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:24 am to
I typically say these people knew what they were getting into with a variable rate plan, but $9k/MWh is ludicrous and this failure could have never been foreseen, even by a consumer with a sound risk assessment.

Bottom line, these people fricked up by going with a variable rate plan and TX fricked up by not at least implementing some regulation to control the market during a catastrophe. It’s not an either or when assigning blame.

Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12446 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:29 am to
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Those classes have been replaced with


Materially they simply haven’t been.

30 years ago your average student wasn’t getting good financial education or great every day risk assessment. If you give me a thousand texans, over/under 1.5 thinking that a $10k bill was on the table to survive a disaster? Hell I’d venture most would assume this is price gouging and not legal if taking a guess
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14282 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:42 am to
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Keep voting republican

People should have less options, correct? It would be better if the government had more regulations to prevent people from making their own decisions? Maybe the government should prevent people from investing in the stock market as well. After all, a particular stock could crash and a person could lose a lot of money on their gamble, right?
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 7:44 am
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8867 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:47 am to
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Agreed. These folks typically enjoyed lower rates playing the market; but in this instance it bit them.

It's like playing the stock market, and wanting your money back at the end of the day.

How about a little personal responsibility.


MF’ing this!

“Hey , look at this stock going up by 20% a month. Let me buy it as I know it will keep doing that. LOL at those schmucks making 8% a year”.

“Hey, look at this $0.03 kw-hr, let me buy it as I know it will be this low forever. LOL at those schmucks paying $0.09 kw-hr.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73136 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:01 am to
Yay deregulation!!

Let's blame the liberals and their windmills some more so people don't discover the truth.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73136 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:02 am to
Yeah but to go from $50kwh to $9,000kwh in one week is fricking insane and only a real piece of shite would blame the consumer.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175552 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:02 am to
How do people see their day to day electric usage and bill?

Do some companies do that? Entergy says they don’t have time for that shite.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:02 am to
You want incentives for power companies to winterize in the future? Here it is.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73136 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:06 am to
A stock you can only lose what you put into it. I buy a stock for 100 and it drops to 20. I can sell it for an 80 dollar loss. My loss is limited.

I can't lose more than I put out.

It's not like I can buy a stock for $100 and it can go to -$9000.



Yet THAT is what we are seeing here.


It's fricking stupid and asinine to attempt to compare this to the stock market.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24477 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:08 am to
Not really. He should have used shorting a stock.

They also could have switched like they were told to do. Kinda like selling their position.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 8:16 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73136 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:09 am to
They do in Texas because you can buy direct Wholesale energy. AS such your daily rate changes. So if yesterday it was $50 a kilowatt hour. It could be $9,000 a kilowatt hour today and people think that's a better system???

Lol.

Regulations are needed in industry this is a proof of why.

This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 8:11 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72685 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:15 am to
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99% of people are not going to do a particularly good risk assessment on this.
The natural resolution of this “logic” is socialism.

We don’t do a great job of teaching folks about all things regarding their transportation choices: whether or not to buy a car, driving a car, spec’ing a car, purchasing, financing, and insuring a car, fixing a car. And car ownership is usually more expensive for a person than is energy consumption cost.

I don’t think GM, Toyota or the rabble of Houston-area energy providers particularly want their consumers better educated on making the most intelligent and wisest fiscal choices.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64967 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:16 am to
You want the gov to wipe your arse too?
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