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Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:04 pm to SabiDojo
quote:I keep trying to invent reasons NOT to get one lol.
I want a Tesla.
I don't know why I haven't dropped down the $1000 for the Model 3 yet but my hope is I can put it off long enough to get the cheaper 3 and not splurge on the S.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:05 pm to shel311
One of my dad's friends has the S P100D. It's fire.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:06 pm to SabiDojo
quote:I ain't balling like that.
One of my dad's friends has the S P100D
My best friend has an S and is supposed to have his 3 by December of this year, but judging by the OP, I told him it may be December of 2024.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:06 pm to cajuncarguy
Tesla Reliability lags behind its performance
Consumer Reports Tesla S P85D breaks during testing
I like the model S, but they aren't good cars. The technology that makes the car cool actually turns even minor issues into real headaches.
Consumer Reports Tesla S P85D breaks during testing
quote:
A new car shouldn't have problems when you’ve owned it for less than a month. Yet Consumer Reports' brand-new $127,000 Tesla Model S P85 D, with the fancy retractable door handles refused to let us in, effectively rendering the car undriveable. (Read "Why We Bought a Tesla Model S.")
After we’d owned the P85 D for a mere 27 days, with just over 2,300 miles on the odometer, the driver-side door handle failed. The door handles in the Model S retract electrically so they rest flush with the sides of the car when they’re not in use. Walk up to the car with the key fob in your pocket, and the handles move out to allow you to grip them.
Driver's door handle is stuck. Except this time, the one on the driver’s door of our P85D didn’t pop out, leaving us no way to open the door from the outside. And significantly, the car wouldn't stay in Drive, perhaps misinterpreting that the door was open due to the issue with the door handle. We have observed other vehicles likewise prohibiting driving with a door open.
We’re far from the first Tesla owners to experience this problem. Our car reliability survey shows that doors, locks, and latches are the biggest trouble areas with Teslas and that the Model S has far higher than average rates of such problems.
I like the model S, but they aren't good cars. The technology that makes the car cool actually turns even minor issues into real headaches.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:07 pm to shel311
I know it sounds weird but if I could have a Tesla it would be the Model X.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:09 pm to SabiDojo
quote:Nah, I love those as well.
I know it sounds weird but if I could have a Tesla it would be the Model X.
If money wasn't an option, I'd certainly choose the X first.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:10 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
I know it sounds weird but if I could have a Tesla it would be the Model X.
My boss has one. He drives like an old lady, but that car does have a lot of power. The back doors are cool as hell.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:11 pm to shel311
Mos def.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:12 pm to member12
I'm surprised at how many people in Jackson have a Tesla. I haven't seen a 3 yet (which this article tells me why ) but I have seen plenty of X's and S's.
) but I have seen plenty of X's and S's. 
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:23 pm to member12
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High score for performance, horrible for reliability in Consumers Reports.
LINK
Consumer Reports:
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"In terms of any new or redesigned vehicles, we often see a tumble on reliability," Fisher said. "As the years go by, we always see reliability continue to improve" as companies work out bugs and design issues.
"The fact that the Tesla Model S is average at all, is impressive, considering the short life of this company, when you have automakers such as Fiat Chrysler unable to make very conventional cars reliable, the fact that the Tesla Model S is average is a very impressive feat."
Keep em coming
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:17 pm to cajuncarguy
quote:
Also their quality sucks. The general public doesn't know this because they will not allow JD Power to access their owner/customer lists. ALL other OEMs that sell vehicles in the USA have given their customer information for JD Power to survey EXCEPT TESLA.
They have the highest brand loyalty out there because of the quality of their product. Go drive one and you will be impressed, I promise. I was going to get a 3 but decided to wait for the model Y.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:36 pm to Janky
quote:Yet he is almost worshiped on the Money Talk Board.
Shocking, Musk over promises again.
I read a finance article about TSLA about 2 months ago where the author said Tesla has literally never met a single goal Musk has committed to and TSLA loses money on every car they sell. Plus, Tesla has either had to borrow money or issue additional shares of stock every year they've been in business since Musk took over as CEO in 2008 just to meet their payroll.
Yet when I pointed that out on the Money Board I was crucified by the Musk fan boys there who were all agog with the "5,000 Model 3 units will be produced per WEEK by the end of this year" promise he made in the second quarter of this year.
He won't come close to achieving that production goal.
I just don't get it....
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:42 pm to FredsGotSlacks
quote:fify
They have the highest brand loyalty out there because of the status of their product
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:02 pm to LSURussian
quote:I'm not too savvy on this stuff, but how do they turn a profit(which they recently started doing) if they lose money on every car they sell?
and TSLA loses money on every car they sell.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:15 pm to shel311
quote:
I'm not too savvy on this stuff, but how do they turn a profit(which they recently started doing) if they lose money on every car they sell?
They sold zero emissions credits that they obtained to other companies to post that profit. They aren't making money on their cars, at least not yet.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:20 pm to LSURussian
Nunh unh.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:21 pm to shel311
quote:Do you have a link for that? I just googled and couldn't find a story on them making a profit.
they recently started doing) if they lose money on every car they sell?
The latest analysts consensus for the Q3/2017 has them losing -$2.00/share.
To answer your question without knowing TSLA's specifics, a company can show a profit without having an operating profit, such as selling a building or other large asset for a profit. Also, companies can accrue tax credits (in effect, counting on tax refunds before they are actually received) for a short-term, such as quarterly, profit. Those types of "profit" do not reflect a sustainable operating profit.
The article I mentioned in my first post above is several months old so maybe there has been a change in TSLA's operating profitability since then.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:22 pm to shel311
quote:
They are in the same facility that GM and Toyota had a JV that ended a few years ago. But instead of using modern production methods with automated robots etc they are building these manually with virtually no assembly line. But not with skilled workers but cheap imported labor with work visas from Obama that our taxes are paying for. They have so many more workers that they ran out of room in their parking lot yet only producing a fraction of what GM/Toyota did in the same facility.
their dirty little secret.
workers on the line are miserable.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:24 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I read a finance article about TSLA about 2 months ago where the author said Tesla has literally never met a single goal Musk has committed to and TSLA loses money on every car they sell. Plus, Tesla has either had to borrow money or issue additional shares of stock every year they've been in business since Musk took over as CEO in 2008 just to meet their payroll.
Yet when I pointed that out on the Money Board I was crucified by the Musk fan boys there who were all agog with the "5,000 Model 3 units will be produced per WEEK by the end of this year" promise he made in the second quarter of this year.
He won't come close to achieving that production goal.
I just don't get it...
i have complete contempt for this government leech
this is what i picture every time i see him speak
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 3:25 pm
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