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Posted on 9/25/26 at 12:02 pm to stout
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but that is still a concern for many
Mostly because it’s a “new” cost. Never seemed to bother ICE drivers that they might have to pay to change out their transmission as the car aged, but all of a sudden, the idea of a large parts cost on an older car is a travesty
Posted on 9/25/26 at 12:04 pm to Joshjrn
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Mostly because it’s a “new” cost. Never seemed to bother ICE drivers that they might have to pay to change out their transmission as the car aged, but all of a sudden, the idea of a large parts cost on an older car is a travesty
A transmission might cost $2-5K, a tesla battery pack might cost $16K
Posted on 9/25/26 at 12:17 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If people were smart, this is what they would pimp about EVs. The uptime and lifespan on electric vehicles is exceptional compared to ICE powered stuff.
So I've had a Lightning since January 2023. I have 52,000 miles on it. When I got it, fully charged it showed about 320 miles of range. Currently it charges to about 315 miles though I usually choose to charge it to 85%.
The only maintenance I've had is software updates.
And somewhere I read that the prediction for EVs is that they will degrade to only a 50% charge in 40 years.
I can't tow a boat far but damn for a rural guy, it is great at gong in and out of town. I think I'll always have one EV. We fill our Acura up about once a month.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 12:20 pm to Darth_Vader
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If they can produce an EV that can go 300+ miles, recharge in <10 minutes, and be ready to go another 300+ miles, I’ll buy it without hesitation.
That is the sticky wicket
As for the other side of the equation, we have a decaying power grid that is already failing and you want to add more power drain at the same time, that is the question to answer.
If you decrease diesel use, what is the offset to the grid to allow this? Just because that diesel is no longer fueled at the truck stop, somewhere some energy plant has to supply the energy to replace;ace it (not to mention at the same time data centers are being built to consume that non oil energy).
Posted on 9/25/26 at 12:43 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The uptime and lifespan on electric vehicles is exceptional compared to ICE powered stuff.
Was looking at some numbers on that.
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Average Lifespan: A standard EV lasts an average of 18.4 years (or roughly 124,000 miles).
I knew charging was slow but I didn't know it was that slow.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:02 pm to kywildcatfanone
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A transmission might cost $2-5K, a tesla battery pack might cost $16K
When was the last time you priced out a transmission, including labor? $5k-$7k is more likely these days, at least as far as I can tell. With that said, Tesla batteries are slated to last between 300,000 and 500,000 miles. And while someone might be inclined to quibble over that estimate, the reality is that you haven’t had a bevy of owners crying about battery replacements. In that time frame, you’ve likely replaced your transmission twice, and that’s one cost. I just paid about $100 to change my oil. At every 5,000 miles, that’s $6,000 worth of oil changes. On my last car, my starter went out. $1,000. It started to go out again and I was told I would need to replace the flywheel for $2,000.
Etc, etc, etc.
Electric vehicles are almost absurdly simple, mechanically. There is very little to break or replace. Fretting over a hypothetical battery replacement 300k miles from now just strikes me as silly, and I say that as someone who doesn’t own an EV.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:06 pm to Darth_Vader
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The only things keeping me from considering an EV are
1. Time to fully recharge
It's a tradeoff since you charge overnight in your garage everyday for 97% of your day to day miles. You only need to factor in offsite charging on road trips. Not many people are able to fill up their ice cars in the garage each night.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:07 pm to Darth_Vader
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The more I think about it, the more an EV makes sense for my wife when it’s time for a new car in another few years. Her daily commute is like 2 miles each way. She’ll drive to Bham sometimes to go shopping, about 45 minutes away. But that’s usually about it.
I mean, that’s the EV wheelhouse.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:30 pm to stout
What’s the range on these things?
ETA: Looks like a max of 500 miles for the long range.
ETA: Looks like a max of 500 miles for the long range.
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:38 pm to RolltidePA
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Mercedes tested a EQS with a new lithium metal solid-state battery made by a US company call Factorial last year. It went 750 miles on a single charge.
If they get EVs to just 500 miles reliably for years of ownership, I'll be buying one.
If it's further than that, I usually fly.
I will always, ALWAYS, have at least one ICE vehicle though in the family.
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:05 am to awestruck
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Now do fully loaded versus half to empty.
And next 3 year old batteries versus those brand new.
And final conside summer, to average winter, to below freezing.
4 down
And if memory serves about the same ratio who supported the pre-production Tesla Truck.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:50 am to Joshjrn
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When was the last time you priced out a transmission, including labor? $5k-$7k is more likely these days, at least as far as I can tell. With that said, Tesla batteries are slated to last between 300,000 and 500,000 miles. And while someone might be inclined to quibble over that estimate, the reality is that you haven’t had a bevy of owners crying about battery replacements. In that time frame, you’ve likely replaced your transmission twice, and that’s one cost. I just paid about $100 to change my oil. At every 5,000 miles, that’s $6,000 worth of oil changes. On my last car, my starter went out. $1,000. It started to go out again and I was told I would need to replace the flywheel for $2,000. Etc, etc, etc. Electric vehicles are almost absurdly simple, mechanically. There is very little to break or replace. Fretting over a hypothetical battery replacement 300k miles from now just strikes me as silly, and I say that as someone who doesn’t own an EV.
There’s a dude on this board - that CAD07X baw or whatever - who crunched the numbers and won’t get an EV because the yearly registration is $100 more in his state
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