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re: Tesla flips a switch to increase the range of some cars in Florida to help people evacuate
Posted on 9/10/17 at 12:35 am to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 9/10/17 at 12:35 am to DavidTheGnome
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This sounds pretty shitty on Tesla's part. Glad they sent the update but frick them for limiting it in the first place (unless there's some good reason that I'm missing).
Electronics companies have been software-locking their products for years. My FLIR camera is one example, models within the series have exactly the same harware specs with only the software flashed in to differentiate the available features and resolution. So with a little piece of software I dl'd for free I turned a camera I paid about $1000 for into a version that went for $5000+. Companies that make digital oscilloscopes are famous for doing this.
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Posted on 9/10/17 at 12:35 am to Rize
Kind of scary thinking about the implications this can have in the future when everyone has an electric. Police could potentially shut down your car if you are wanted for something.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:16 am to Street Hawk
Did anyone mention that this is exactly how your internet pretty much works too.
They have already laid down the wiring.
You get the modem, sometimes provided by them.
You only get the speed you pay for, even though they could just "let" you have the higher speed.
I don't see the outrage.
And as someone hinted at, it works both ways. If they only offered the longer range model, some people wouldn't be able to afford it, so instead of just saying "tough shite", they offer a lower cost alternative. I'd also bet there are some real costs associated on their infrastructure between the two versions that may not be readily apparent to the consumer.
They have already laid down the wiring.
You get the modem, sometimes provided by them.
You only get the speed you pay for, even though they could just "let" you have the higher speed.
I don't see the outrage.
And as someone hinted at, it works both ways. If they only offered the longer range model, some people wouldn't be able to afford it, so instead of just saying "tough shite", they offer a lower cost alternative. I'd also bet there are some real costs associated on their infrastructure between the two versions that may not be readily apparent to the consumer.
This post was edited on 9/10/17 at 1:20 am
Posted on 9/10/17 at 1:37 am to C
Intel used to do the same with their PC microprocessors.. They would sell a full power version, and a cheaper version that was the same chip with the coprocessor disabled.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:06 am to Street Hawk
frick a bunch of glorified, overpriced golf carts with a 200 mile range. Wierdo junk.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:09 am to jrowla2
quote:
Kind of scary thinking about the implications this can have in the future when everyone has an electric. Police could potentially shut down your car if you are wanted for something.
They can do that now with Chevy On-Star, Ford's (forget the name), and FCA's uConnect.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:13 am to mofungoo
quote:Meh... if I had the extra cash just burning a hole in my pocket then I'd get one for around town. The self park, auto pilot, and 0-60 times (currently the quickest production car on the planet) make it look fun. But it in no way would be my only car.
frick a bunch of glorified, overpriced golf carts with a 200 mile range. Wierdo junk.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:16 am to Rize
My baw.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:29 am to slackster
quote:
Either the 60kWh clients or the 75kWh clients are getting screwed artificially.
Not really. I mean, Fed Ex has sat on packages that arrived early simply because I didn't pay for expedited shipping.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:59 am to OysterPoBoy
60k or 75k. Same battery.
Just flip switch.
Scam. For shame.
Just flip switch.
Scam. For shame.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 7:04 am to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
Intel does this with some of their chips.
Copy machines are like this two. Several of the units will be all the same hardware, but you have to pay more for 30 pages/minute vs 20 per minute.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 7:53 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:
Did anyone mention that this is exactly how your internet pretty much works too. They have already laid down the wiring. You get the modem, sometimes provided by them. You only get the speed you pay for, even though they could just "let" you have the higher speed.
Yes and no. With the internet, there is limited bandwidth. You are balancing multiple consumers. The Tesla is a stand alone situation much closer to the processing chips ppl have mentioned.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:18 am to DavidTheGnome
quote:What?
How us the 60kWh more affordable then if they use the same things in them? This sounds pretty shitty on Tesla's part.
I'm not sure you interpreted the 60 vs 75 correctly.
quote:The article literally told you the reasoning, you just didn't read it.
but frick them for limiting it in the first place (unless there's some good reason that I'm missing).
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:22 am to jrowla2
quote:I doubt that'll happen but if it did, that's actually a good thing.
Kind of scary thinking about the implications this can have in the future when everyone has an electric. Police could potentially shut down your car if you are wanted for something.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:26 am to C
quote:
So telsa purposely restricts the range of their vehicles? That's kinda fricked up.
It's like a tuning a cars HP. Manufacturers have been doing this for decades. You could buy a $300 ECU to reprogram your 335i and have as much horsepower as an M3.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:27 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:Of course they haven't thought about that, it's much easier to just be outraged over something they don't know much about.
Did anyone mention that this is exactly how your internet pretty much works too.
They have already laid down the wiring.
You get the modem, sometimes provided by them.
You only get the speed you pay for, even though they could just "let" you have the higher speed.
I bet everyone thinking this is so wrong have never once thought the same about their internet, where as you said, you can go from the cheapest to most expensive internet your provider can give you usually without any hardware upgraded, they just flip a switch...just like Tesla did. THE HORROR!!!
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:28 am to Street Hawk
600 mile range on my V8 4x4 that can haul all my gear and belongings.
That's what I want
Get out my way
That's what I want
Get out my way
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:29 am to TigerDeBaiter
quote:So far we have:
Copy machines are like this two. Several of the units will be all the same hardware, but you have to pay more for 30 pages/minute vs 20 per minute.
- Microprocessors
- Copying machines
- Internet
- Receiving packages overnight or 2 day or standard
There's probably countless other examples of things we just accept without realizing it's no different than what Tesla is doing here, but damn that Tesla, what a scam!!!
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:37 am to shel311
We can add cable to the list as well.
You mean to tell me I have all the hardware I need to get HBO and Showtime, but the cable company offers a cheaper package without it but could just flip a switch and I could magically have it?
SCAM!!!
You mean to tell me I have all the hardware I need to get HBO and Showtime, but the cable company offers a cheaper package without it but could just flip a switch and I could magically have it?
SCAM!!!
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:50 am to shel311
quote:
SCAM!!!
Comparing services to hardware is a shitty example. The processors are the best comparison. Cable and internet are shitty ones.
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