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re: Tesla cuts owner's range by 80 miles with software update, asks for $4.5K to restore it

Posted on 7/27/22 at 9:46 am to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
36193 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 9:46 am to
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Try to get a wrecked Tesla and rebuild it. Tesla doesn't allow it.


Plenty of videos on YT of this. I recommend Rich Rebuilds
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52351 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 9:52 am to
You have any objective basis to think Tesla is in the wrong and explain why?

Or is it because Musk hurt your feelings so Tesla/SpaceX can no longer do any right ever.
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1211 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:10 am to
Elon is collecting some side $$ to pay Amber's court fine....
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:32 am to
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Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stockpile your own gas than your own electricity?


You serious, baw?
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2410 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:55 am to
I see this as pointing out issues with having connected cars as others have pointed out.

I trust neither corporations and especially the government to use this capability wisely....
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44031 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:21 pm to
So in other words, only believe the media when it reinforces your opinion. Gotcha.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28996 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:24 pm to
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Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stockpile your own gas than your own electricity?
You can own the equipment required to generate your own electricity, so no need to stockpile. If you have to stockpile something, you're still bound to that supply chain.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14958 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:27 pm to
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So in other words, only believe the media when it reinforces your opinion. Gotcha.
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Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
75007 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:28 pm to
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The dealer replaced a 60 with a 90.


I'm pretty ignorant on this stuff so please bear with me. How was he able to do that?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14958 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:34 pm to
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I'm pretty ignorant on this stuff so please bear with me. How was he able to do that?

Depending on the year and model at some point Tesla basically was only installing one battery pack but offering multiple models at different price points then using software to limit the accessible charge. This was actually a big deal when Florida had to storm evacuate and Tesla remotely opened up full depth of charge for anyone using their Tesla to evacuate to give them more range.

So it could be that this model always had a 90 battery and was limited and accidentally “opened” up when it was swapped or that the new 90, is in the same ess skid and would fit right in.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28315 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:39 pm to
That seems to be the case. I wonder how it ended up badged a 90 though.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14958 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:45 pm to
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That seems to be the case. I wonder how it ended up badged a 90 though.

My money is on a used dealer or previous owner who realized it and ordered badges. I’ve seen enough dealers put FX2 badges on XLT trucks to be skeptical.
Posted by GeauxHouston
Midland, Texas
Member since Nov 2013
4828 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Trump would agree, take notice.

Trump put America first and I’m glad for that. Doesn’t mean he himself isn’t a dumbass. He would have had the best 8 years of any recent President if he would have just been decent at debating or speaking.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28315 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:52 pm to
Those are the most likely scenarios.

I really would like to know the real history of this car not in order to pass judgment on any entity but it sounds like there might be an interesting VINWiki episode hidden in there.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14958 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:16 pm to
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I really would like to know the real history of this car not in order to pass judgment on any entity but it sounds like there might be an interesting VINWiki episode hidden in there.

Me too. Reading down the twitter thread, seems like Tesla has made the situation right but that there is at least one other person in the same boat. I’m guessing there might have been a system issue that’s just now catching these since they’ve replaced the comm modules for 3G sunset and probably running some diagnostics in their data repository. I know on those older units they were always a bit leery of trying to pump a bunch of data through them so they kept it to mostly update and fsd data payloads.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:32 pm to
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This was actually a big deal when Florida had to storm evacuate and Tesla remotely opened up full depth of charge for anyone using their Tesla to evacuate to give them more range.


Durning that event a lot of owners were pissed to learn they had paid a substantial premium to access the full capacity of a battery that was physically already in every car.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14958 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Durning that event a lot of owners were pissed to learn they had paid a substantial premium to access the full capacity of a battery that was physically already in every car.

I’m zero percent surprised that people were pissed about not having something they didn’t pay for. Most people are far to dumb to understand manufacturing efficiency and how that trickles down to unit economics.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28315 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Durning that event a lot of owners were pissed to learn they had paid a substantial premium to access the full capacity of a battery that was physically already in every car.


Most people would be surprised to know that likely own a piece of electronics that is similar to this. For example, lots of televisions, especially those sold at discount chains like Walmart) have the exact same hardware as more expensive models sold at AV dealers and Best Buy etc that just have different firmware that does not enable a set of features.

Even something as random as a Fluke multi-tester I have has the same hardware as the next two models up but I just can't access the features.

Economy of scale just makes it cheaper to build more of the same item and just program them differently.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 2:08 pm to
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Economy of scale just makes it cheaper to build more of the same item and just program them differently.


No disagreement there, but the psychology involved in how individuals view purchases and ownership is more complex, and will take a lot of work by marketing types to overcome.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10289 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Twitter is so stupid.
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