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Posted on 11/14/15 at 9:55 am to Brian12
Think about this, and really let it sink in: The "prophet" Mohammed lived 600 years after Christ.
The demonic anti-religion known as Islam didn't even exist until well after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
Really think about that. These people are savages. They are the antithesis of everything Western Civilization stands for. This isn't some time honored religion.
The demonic anti-religion known as Islam didn't even exist until well after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
Really think about that. These people are savages. They are the antithesis of everything Western Civilization stands for. This isn't some time honored religion.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 9:55 am to Mullet Flap
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I don't pretend to know how to approach this situation but to say ridding the world of Islam is the answer means you've no grip on reality.
There is no hope for the world, it will not get better, but the world is neutral, the problem lies in the mind, and every one of us is responsible.
Seek not to change the world, but choose to change your mind about the world. This is where the error occurred, and this is where it will be undone.
This idea is catching on very slowly, but no worries, nothing real can be threatened.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 9:56 am to TaderSalad
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4.) Liberals in this country want to take away legally owned firearms in this country and apparently we keep electing them so I guess a majority of you guys are down with that.
Far more idiots with guns in schools have killed people than terrorist with guns inside the US.
Something about our gun laws must change, though I'm not sure i have the answers either.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 9:58 am to SuperSaint
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disheartening seeing people believe in the simple solutions they conjure up for complex problems.
Im afraid with the state of partisan politics and Citizens United that things will get a lot worse before they get better.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 9:59 am to TaderSalad
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Paris is a gun free zone... so yeah, there's that
I'm as pro-gun as you'll find, but I think this point is a bit disingenuous. Perhaps a pro gun culture may help deter this behavior, but these people are radicals and they expect to die, so I'm not sure more guns would matter to them.
Additionally, the notion that more guns would have produced citizens that would have stopped these people mid-attack is a bit optimistic IMO.
I despise gun control, but I don't believe these attacks should be used as some sort of notch in the belt of the pro-gun advocates.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:04 am to slackster
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Perhaps a pro gun culture may help deter this behavior, but these people are radicals and they expect to die, so I'm not sure more guns would matter to them.
I think people are pointing out Paris's strict gun laws to show how useless they really are. These guys smuggled a lot of firepower into the city without anyone noticing until they pulled them out to kill people.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:05 am to JinFL
BBC is saying this is a self contained cell that just got back from Syria. One of them was a woman, they are currently chasing/looking for the rest in two different cars in France. I think it is two cars with 4 guys each
About the gun laws....If I am carrying and with family, frick you guys. You can fend for yourselves. My job is to get them out. I'd do something if I was by myself, but not with family or friends
About the gun laws....If I am carrying and with family, frick you guys. You can fend for yourselves. My job is to get them out. I'd do something if I was by myself, but not with family or friends
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Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:07 am to slackster
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I'm as pro-gun as you'll find, but I think this point is a bit disingenuous. Perhaps a pro gun culture may help deter this behavior, but these people are radicals and they expect to die, so I'm not sure more guns would matter to them.
Thats not the point I was trying to make. A gun free zone doesn't mean jack shite to someone with the intentions to kill. People want to stick the sign up as if it keeps the wolves from preying on the sheep. I am not using this as a notch for pro guns. Simply stating that gun free zone logic is faulty.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:11 am to Hammertime
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How many of the terrorists that have done something have been illegals? There's a lot to be said for stability in Mexico. They don't just give them stuff with zero stipulations
Since theres no evidence to answer your question, I'll ask you one back.. How many of the illegals that cross over our borders every day are Mexicans? I have nothing against Hispanics. Some hard workers that do work for a minimum wage that we want $15 an hour to do. My point with that statement is that if you think that only hispanics are crossing into the US, you should be more in tune with whats going on down south of us.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:12 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Think about this, and really let it sink in: The "prophet" Mohammed lived 600 years after Christ.
The demonic anti-religion known as Islam didn't even exist until well after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
Really think about that. These people are savages. They are the antithesis of everything Western Civilization stands for. This isn't some time honored religion.
ahh... i see you got the Christianity abridged version of the History book....
you may wanna do some more digging and see the similarities between Christianity, and pretty much a few handfuls of other fringe religions/religious movements before it arrived on the scene...
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
Um, no.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:16 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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GeorgeTheGreek
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Far more idiots with guns in schools have killed people than terrorist with guns inside the US. Something about our gun laws must change, though I'm not sure i have the answers either.
Paris has lost 140+ in two incidents this year alone. I am saying that it is a matter of time before we start seeing what is going on over there, over here. My answer keep the government out of it We want a government who can't fix healthcare, can't fix an economy, can't help race relations, to attempt to regulate gun control? Go to the FBI website and look up actual statistics. Driving and texting was responsible for killing way more people last year than guns, and that was on the lower end of the spectrum.
I am assuming, and this is not to insult anyone, but you get your facts from a media outlet (CNN, Fox, CBS). Believe it or not, they get paid to stir the pot and often report stuff later to be disproven. My point is, do some fact searching and know where you stand before you jump in the millennial march.
ETA: read his point wrong.
This post was edited on 11/14/15 at 10:20 am
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:21 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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I'm not sure i have the answers either.
At least you realize this. You sure as hell don't.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:25 am to beaver
France's ground forces could probably take out ISIS on their own if they wanted. I wish they would.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:26 am to TaderSalad
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A gun free zone doesn't mean jack shite to someone with the intentions to kill.
You are wrong. guns may not stop bombs. They will deter shooters or lessen the number of killed in such of an attack.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:30 am to chRxis
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similarities between Christianity, and
You should read the New Testament. At least we are progressive.
You have benefited from christians no doubt. Tell me where you/we have benefited from muslims .... other than removing those ugly old structures in NYC.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:30 am to Redbone
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At least you realize this. You sure as hell don't
No one really does. The left wants a ban. Which will never happen because there a far more Democrats who carry then people realize.
And as we've seen in Australia and France, gun bans don't do anything except make people sitting ducks.
The ONLY way to rid the world of gun violence is to remove guns from the face of the earth. Obviously never going to happen.
But the deeper problem is just general violence. There will always be violence. There were mass killings before guns. There are mass killings without guns (9/11, Oklahoma, etc).
Are guns a problem? Sure, in the wrong hands.
Funny thing though... The gun I carry every single day has never killed anyone. And it never will unless I'm ever in a situation where I need to defend myself.
Hopefully I'm never in that situation. But with violence on the rise everywhere, it's not too far out of the realm of possibility that it might be used to do just that. Soon...
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:37 am to TaderSalad
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People want to stick the sign up as if it keeps the wolves from preying on the sheep. I am not using this as a notch for pro guns. Simply stating that gun free zone logic is faulty.
Really? Paris has one of the lowest murder rates in the world for a major city (1.0 murders per 100,000 people).
The policy works on a day-to-day basis. And this attack would have occurred whether Paris had gun free laws or not (meaning there is no correlation between the two).
I'm sorry, but you're very wrong.
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:37 am to TaderSalad
The only thing gun free zones do is deter law abiding gun carrying citizens from bringing guns into them. I can see one exception with bars having a gun free zone. But it doesn't make sense at most other places.
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