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re: Televangelists and the people who defend them

Posted on 2/18/19 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 2:08 pm to
Instead of judging televangelists and people who donate money to churches maybe you should worry about yourself. Stop acting like a bigot.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:30 am to
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Robert Tilton in Dallas was the greatest -


Arghhhh we went to his church, off 35 here in Dallas, sometimes when I was a kid. My mom is a sucker for these types. Even benny hinn. We have to constantly keep tabs on her money to make sure she isnt doing anything stupid. She's the good hearted sweet, kind, but naive type that these guys take advantage of. The type that went to mass every morning as a kid (she converted eventually after she married my dad).

As a kid my dad would get up, and walk out of sermons where the pastor would say shite like "your money will dry up...yadda yadda yadda" if you dont tithe.

I've attended Prestonwood Baptist (now up in Plano) since I was a kid. Dad finally found it, and Pastor Jack Graham I will say influenced my life only second to my father. it's like he put our faith in Dr Grahams hands to guide. He does have a "mega-church". He is on tv, but I wouldnt say he is a televangelist like these others. Sadly he is starting to faze out for a lesser role. Back in the day he was the type that made you really think, and sweat. Was afraid to be upfront about sin of the day. In an entertaining way. Rarely spoke about tithing, and basic "sunday school" stuff. So hard to find that today. Give me the tools to handle todays issues in the way God wants us too without fear.

Anyway..biggest thing they have that I support is their pregnancy center(started back in 90s) that helps women who got pregnant, and gives them an alternative to an abortion.

Funny story on Robert Tilton....i was in a store in the Galleria once yrs yrs ago, and I was looking at something in the window from inside the store. I look up, and BAM there was tiltons big arse head looking thru the window across from me. Ha. Freaked me out. Dude never aged. Ha

No church is perfect as the devil hides in the good, but it's important to stop it once found. be upfront about it. Forgive. Move on with diligence. .
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155828 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:27 am to
ctiger69 stop.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75260 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:35 am to
Take a chill pill, bro.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
5066 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:50 am to
He is using the church for his personal platform....once he hit it big he didnt need the salary.....it was the church that propped him up to make it big.

Jimmy Swaggart was different backing the day....fire and brimstone. Today it is all feel good stuff which is always predicated on giving to the church to feel that way. Tilton is so bad it is cartoonish, him and the guy that had the river running down the church.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:55 am to
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Not familiar with Hinn


Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79317 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:58 am to
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Why do more Christians not condemn the behavior of hookers like Joel Osteen and Benny Hinn?


They want something to believe in. You should see Houston traffic for one of his sermons. It's crazy.

Looks like that interviewer is even thinking "man, this guy is full of crap"
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Some people are so lost in the world that they cling on to these people as their only source of hope and inspiration. It is pretty sad, really.


It is a placebo, but if it makes them feel better what difference does it make, its less harmful than drugs or alcohol, and cheaper than therapy.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5375 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:30 pm to
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I did some work for this older gentleman several years ago. He told me that he never was one for going to church, but that he watched Joel Osteen on the TV and sent money to him. I just shook my head.


I think the biggest supporters Osteen has, outside of his immediate local congregation, are those that don't belong to or attend any church whatsoever.
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:38 pm to
"Planting a seed" is above and beyond normal tithing.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18811 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:44 pm to
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How could anyone support these clowns, or even worse give them money?


honestly, life really sucks sometimes. stress and fear get in the way of clear thinking, couple that with most of us being brainwashed into religion at a young age, we'll fall for just about anything that makes us feel better about ourselves.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155828 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:24 pm to
His actions and remarks in this thread, especially toward Pecker, are nothing short of reprehensible and completely unruly.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18990 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:31 pm to
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How could anyone support these clowns, or even worse give them money?

It's eerily similar to democrats. Common denominator, you've got to be pretty damn dumb.
Posted by Cregg
Orange Beach
Member since Jul 2017
2023 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Benny Hinn is a charlatan and a fraud on so many levels and some do call him out

I was in a wedding that he officiated. He and his coke head son are massive assholes.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24503 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:37 pm to
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It's eerily similar to democrats. Common denominator, you've got to be pretty damn dumb.


I can tell you that places like Healing Place and Lakewood aren't filling those buildings to the rafters with Democrats. That's what's so funny about those mega churches.

eta: I like to post Rust Cohle's quote on religion in these threads:

If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward then, brother, that person is a piece of shite. And I’d like to get as many of them out in the open as possible. You gotta get together and tell yourself stories that violate every law of the universe just to get through the goddamn day? What’s that say about your reality?
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18990 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:45 pm to
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I can tell you that places like Healing Place and Lakewood aren't filling those buildings to the rafters with Democrats. That's what's so funny about those mega churches.

It's a slightly different, but similar, kind of dumb.

But you'd think I'm a different kind of dumb as well as a Westminster Confession Presbyterian.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:49 pm to
Did you know at the time of his death, Billy Graham had a net worth of $25 million? I like the guy but I think it comes down to people choosing who they are going to like or dislike. A lot on here don't like religion in the first place so this is easy fuel for them.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66998 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:51 pm to
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People want to see what makes them feel good. These televangelists make their people feel good. So those people do what they say and ignore anything that contradicts with their perceived reality


It’s like the liberals with these racial attacks. They want them to be true so bad that they suspend all logical reasoning in their analysis. It falls in line with what I want to be true therefore it’s true. Facts and evidence be damned.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:12 pm to
Osteen has built his fortune on the ignorant people of this world. Yeah he’s a POS, yet the people that give him money are to blame.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5603 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:13 am to
Paying me was irrelevant. I help many people without compensation. Her budget worked without tithing. We worked on her budget for 3 years. She was depleting her accounts (that i did not hold) and then lied to me about it.

I guess I actually fired her for not taking advice and lying.
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