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re: Teachers in Ohio’s largest school district go on strike 2 days before start of classes
Posted on 8/22/22 at 2:55 pm to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 8/22/22 at 2:55 pm to AwesomeSauce
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This was in Louisiana, and I'm an older millennial so this isn't in barefoot uphill both ways times, but recent enough most my teachers are still teaching or have moved to administration.
i started school in the late 80s so i'm probably in the same boat.
i was like WTF? y'all don't have AC? how do you live? then i was all "it's 90 degrees? GFY."
i grew up in West Texas so it was still in the 100s into September. different heat though. my school usually capped it at 80 and ran window units if it got too hot.
i'm a gaping vagina about heat, don't get me wrong.
my wife is a teacher and i'm somewhat sensitive to their issues, but i'm not overly in favor of most conditions they strike over.
the only time i've heard her complain in the last three years is about forcing people to wear masks, having to record lessons for people without covid that chose to stay home in 2020 or 2021, or making kids or herself have to stay home for 2nd hand exposures.
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 2:56 pm to GetCocky11
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Superintendent/CEO
Treasurer/CFO
Exec Director, Budget and Financial Management
Deputy Sup, Admin
Chief Academic Officer
Chief Transformation and Leadership Officer
Chief Accountability Officer
Chief Engagement Officer
Chief Communications Officer
Chief Equity Officer
Chief Operations Officer
Chief of Staff
General Counsel
Chief Human Resources Officer
Chief Information Officer
6 different Area Superintendents
Another 8 Exec Directors
When you look at money going to a district you can bet a good sized portion is ate up in wasteful administrative jobs. Some jobs created for a family member, friend, donor, etc.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:00 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The union said the school board walked away from the bargaining table on July 28 and has refused to agree to language in a contract that “will guarantee Columbus students basics like air conditioning, appropriate class sizes, and full-time art, music, and P.E. teachers in elementary schools.”
Is this like one of those Congressional bills?
You know, the ones that have a title like the "Voter's Right Act" where there is all kinds of BS in there, but if you are against the extra BS then you are against Voter's rights?
If this is truly about just AC and class size, I stand with the teachers, but something tells me that there is more to it than just that.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:01 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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When you look at money going to a district you can bet a good sized portion is ate up in wasteful administrative jobs. Some jobs created for a family member, friend, donor, etc.
i worked in k12 for my first 10 years out of college. 6 of those were in Administration (Technology.) my district grew about 3-5k students in that time. in that growth we added about 40 new teachers and doubled our administration from 35 to 70ish.
when they decided to hire 3 new curriculum people, a social media team, and an energy saving facility manager (principal that had repeated state examination failures and somehow got a raise) that were the same salary as about 15-20 teachers, i saw where it was headed and bailed. I still work with k12 on the consulting side because i believe in education, but bloated administrations are in the running of why public ed sucks.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:09 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The union said the school board walked away from the bargaining table on July 28 and has refused to agree to language in a contract that “will guarantee Columbus students basics like air conditioning, appropriate class sizes, and full-time art, music, and P.E. teachers in elementary schools.”
This is wrong. There were two negotiation sessions last week, 8/16 and 8/18.
Teachers demand
AC in all schools for the students ha ha.
8% increase in wages
Full time art, music, and physical education teachers in every elementary school
Reduced class sizes, to increase number of teachers in the district
There might be more, but that’s what Columbus news stations are reporting.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:31 pm to RT1941
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It appears the school board prepped the this eventuality with on-line classroom instruction to begin on schedule.
They are having principals and other admins do online instruction for 48k kids.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:46 pm to Deplorableinohio
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8% increase in wages
And there it is.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:47 pm to Cosmo
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They really really care about the kids though
I remember reading a quote from a teacher union head who replied when someone mentioned about the impact to kids regarding a strike or another issue said 'Well, when the kids start paying dues I'll listen to them.'
Bottom line is the teachers union only looks out for the interests of the teachers. That should have been evident from the complaining about returning to in class instruction as the pandemic was winding down.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:48 pm to teke184
quote:They all live in Hilliard, Dublin, and Westerville.
Big Ten city. The docs at tOSU are probably picking up the slack for them.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:49 pm to lsupride87
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About as much as you truly care about your patients if you thought you were being undervalued/underpaid
Ive never gone on strike
frick off
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:49 pm to ShakeandBake
quote:That's the whole purpose of a union.
Bottom line is the teachers union only looks out for the interests of the teachers
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:52 pm to Cosmo
quote:Ok, congrats. Would you continue working if the hospital underpaid you? Or gave you shitting work conditions? frick no you wouldn’t
Ive never gone on strike frick off
Maybe these teachers demands are bullshite, but the “they don’t care about the kids” line from you is horseshite. If your employer fricked you over in your kind you would walk away if they didn’t fix it. “But “your poor patients”….
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:57 pm to Gravitiger
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They all live in Hilliard, Dublin, and Westerville.
And Upper Arlington.
Other than the pay, I think the AC and classroom size issues are put out there by malcontents who see how nice the suburbs of Columbus have it and want to pretend that they're in the same boat. News flash, you're not, and you knew that going in. There really is no need for A/C in Ohio schools. The worst of summer is over. Yes, you might get into the upper 80's once in a while in September or May, but it just isn't worth the cost, from a taxpayer standpoint.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:58 pm to MorbidTheClown
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quote:but it’s pretty fricked up if one of the demands not being met is A/C.
none of the schools i went to had a/c anywhere other than the office and the teacher's lounge.
Ours added portable/trailer classrooms. Great for the AC not for tornados.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:00 pm to crap4brain
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went on strike Monday over smaller class sizes and building safety demands
Is this the part where the media leaves out that they want more money, which is the only real issue?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:05 pm to lsupride87
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Would you continue working if the hospital underpaid you?
I would work until my contract ran out then give notice Im out
I negotiated my salary so that would be on me
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:07 pm to Bluefin
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How do you guarantee class sizes? Are they going to deny a certain amount of children from going to school?
I don't think you can draw a fine line here, but this should be a major concern. This should be an easy task for a large school district because growth would be more obvious, and significant enough over a short period. If you have 10s of thousands of kids with numerous schools, it's easier to make the decision when it's the right time to expand. If you're a small community with just the typical 3 age groups of schools, it could be very challenging. It's still doable, as plenty of school systems seem to manage their class size just fine.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:10 pm to crap4brain
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Teachers in Ohio’s largest school district go on strike 2 days before start of classes
It’s because they care so much about the kids education
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:31 pm to RT1941
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Are these teachers getting salaries & benefits while they are on strike?
A friend of mine is a teacher in Cleveland, when they went on strike last year they only got whatever the union decided to pay them which was a pittance.
A lot of the dissatisfaction the teachers have in Ohio has been brewing for years and a lot if it revolves around the way they’ve yanked them around on their retirement plans by pushing out the minimum number of years needed to work and payouts. I think most folks would be pissed off if a few years from retirement you were told oops we changed the rules and your benefits.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 5:34 pm to Cymry Teigr
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I think most folks would be pissed off if a few years from retirement you were told oops we changed the rules and your benefits.
as opposed to the private sector, where your 401k can determine whether or not you can retire on a given year?
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