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re: Teachers have it hard you guys

Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Did you know that in countries like Norway teachers are revered on the level of doctors? And we turn our kids over to Brittany Smith, the ditsy, half-teenager who can barely do an algebraic function and is pissed off that her job requires her to deal with screaming children all day, driving her to drink and screw The Boy Next Door.



The teachers who bitch and wish to be revered like doctors don't realize that Norway also has a much higher barrier to entry in the profession and that they'd likely not even be able to teach.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:47 pm to
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I worked a minimum of 10 hours a day and almost all of every weekend.


My wife teaches high school math (Alg II, Geometry, and 1 Calc class) and I can tell you that you definitely were doing it wrong. She doesn't work 10 hours a day. She works from 8-5 like the rest of us. Every blue moon she'll have to put in an hour on the weekend. You know...like a private sector normal fricking job requires?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62534 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Little or no privacy. We cannot go to Walmart in shorts, no make-up, and a pony-tail because we might run into a student and parent and wind up having a parent-teacher conference in the cereal aisle. Or a student might see a bottle of wine in our cart and when Monday comes, we hear students saying making jokes, like Ms. So and So is a wino, or Ms. So and So, you didn’t listen to the DARE lady.


You ought to see some of the women Catholic school teachers at the annual parish fair.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:52 pm to
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We cannot go to Walmart in shorts, no make-up, and a pony-tail because we might run into a student and parent and wind up having a parent-teacher conference in the cereal aisle.


Why does not wearing makeup preclude one from talking to someone about their child?


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Or a student might see a bottle of wine in our cart and when Monday comes, we hear students saying making jokes, like Ms. So and So is a wino, or Ms. So and So, you didn’t listen to the DARE lady.

"DARE stands for Drug Abuse Resistance Education, little Tommy. To have a glass of wine as an adult who is of age as frequently as a nightly basis is actually very much in line with DARE. Being able to critically analyze what you're taught is important, and I encourage you to listen to the entire message in context instead of hanging on a few words that you are having difficulty grasping the actual meaning of." (And yeah. Prepositions are terrible words to end a sentence with. But that's another story for another day).

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You have a bad day or a bad customer? No problem; many of you can rant online. If teachers do that, we get pulled into the office for our negativity.


Invite a teacher friend over and drink the wine with her, you dumb wino. Or text your teacher friend. They understand. Everyone else would downvote you anyway if the function existed. Or join an online forum and post anonymously. Is that social media? It, at the very least, borders on it.



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We even get chastised if a friend posts an inappropriate post on our page.


You chose to be a role model and instructor of children. Turn your wall off or stop things from being posted on it until you've approved them.


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Everyone says we have freedom of speech, but anything can be taken out of context and lead to a dismissal.


So you're not placed in jail? Turns out you have freedom of speech as well.

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Oh and did I mention homecoming week? Everyone’s house is victimized. If you are loved by students, only toilet paper awaits. Hated? Get ready…


Call the police. Offer a reward to any student who rats out the others. Allow two forms of examination, one for students who tell on other students that is multiple choice. The other is for those who don't snitch. It's 5 pages of essay questions.


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That is why we cannot live a “normal” life. We are not “normal” people.


There is no such thing as "normal." It's a spectrum, and everything you describe falls within the limits of normal. Active Duty Armed Services, Doctors Without Borders, Missionaries in foreign lands don't live "normal" lives. I respectfully disagree and suggest that teachers do.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47875 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:53 pm to
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Fresh out of brief alt cert training, I was hired a few days before school started, handed a textbook, and was wished well. No teaming, no mentor teacher, no policies/procedures explained, no anything. Not to mention as a newbie, I was given pretty much the hardest, lowest level kids. At that point you just try to keep your head above water and take the little victories.

Wow - you described my intro to teaching exactly - except I took over after Thanksgiving. Classes had been taught by subs until then = meaning they had not be taught anything - just given out worksheets to fill in.

Two of my classes were Remedial Math, where I got to meet the basketball team and most of the football team.

Ahhh - the memories.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62336 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:56 pm to
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worked a minimum of 10 hours a day and almost all of every weekend.


I'm sorry, I just don't believe you. I have teachers in my family, and I know their routines. I'm also a corporate attorney and work with other corporate attorneys, and while we generally do work 10+ hours every week day, we do not work "almost all of every weekend."

Sounds like hyperbole to me.
Posted by ToulatownTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
4597 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:56 pm to
The amount of athletes in remedial classes is sickening. LHSAA needs to go back to the GPA standard for eligibility and it needs to be 1.75 or no playing
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:57 pm to
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mean, I'm not a teacher so I can't attest, but of my 5 or so close friends who are teachers, 4 of them talk about it incessantly. My guess is that they do it among themselves all the time, which is why it is so pervasive (you lose perspective when you're in a bubble of other teachers who also bitch about teaching).



MIL, BIL, and Wife were all teachers at some point. Let the bitch fest BEGIN!

Now my BIL finally wised up and got out of teaching and my wife never really bitched to begin with. My MIL still bitches and acts as though teaching is the toughest thing ever. I mean, working from 6:30am-6:30pm every night for 2nd grade teacher? Something tells me she doesn't know how to manage her time.
Posted by reginaphilange
Member since Mar 2014
415 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:58 pm to
Ahh almost exactly the same as I came in after Christmas break!

The basketball coach and I became fast friends. lol
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:59 pm to
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I am in my second year teaching. I am at a great school and I am teaching pre-calculus and financial math. I absolutely love it. Sure some days are more challenging than other days, but I expect that from 16-18 yr old kids. I almost never bring work home with me because I maximize my time and off periods while I'm at school. I never go in the teachers lounge and subject myself to all the stupid gossip and bitching that I'm sure is going on. Instead, I'm in my classroom grading papers or making tests/quizzes so when I get home around 3:30, I have jack shite to do school related.






THIS.

You get 30 minute lunch (bring your lunch and use your time), 1 hour "planning" period (USE IT!), and a few hours after school if you treat it like an 8-5 job. That is enough to make it to where you OCCASIONALLY bring home work.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34871 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:00 pm to
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There is no such thing as "normal." It's a spectrum, and everything you describe falls within the limits of normal. Active Duty Armed Services, Doctors Without Borders, Missionaries in foreign lands don't live "normal" lives. I respectfully disagree and suggest that teachers do.



Exactly.

Service industry, specifically restaurant and bar, has a different definition of normal. That is the culture of the industry.
Posted by Captain Cruze
Member since Jan 2015
65 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:06 pm to
college professors have to do way more work and schooling to get where theyre at...
Posted by TejasPete
Member since Dec 2013
1425 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:08 pm to
Nothing makes me laugh harder than teachers who think they have some awful hard job and should be treated like pillars of society. One of my best friends got out of the Army and teaches high school math he said the summers and holidays off are epic and that if you manage you're time and work efficiently it's a 9 - 5 job.
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 3:07 pm to
I have the credentials to be on television doing the weather but being "goody goody" when out in public would be challenging. Everyone would be saying "hey..there's the weatherman on channel 53 and he is with some dude or he's smoking a cig. Or "he just got upset with that waitress."

Being in the spotlight has pros and cons. You have to maintain a persona that isn't real.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27439 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 3:13 pm to
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Her principal is very religious and doesn't drink and she's too worried about something getting back to her and getting on her list


So she's so religious she puts people on lists and treats them different bc she doesn't agree with their lifestyles ?

She needs to be fired
Posted by keakdasneak
Member since Dec 2006
7185 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 3:47 pm to
I'm not a "real" teacher. I teach English in a foreign country. My life is pretty sweet and I have 0 whining to do. I came to this later in life after having a different profession. So maybe my perspective is a bit different than teachers that have only been teachers. My opinion is that both of if the major generalizations of teachers are true. If you've never done it, it is difficult to understand. 1 class teaching (for me 40 minutes) is = to about 3 hours worth of work at any of my previous jobs in terms of energy expenditure. Maybe my situation is different because I'm attempting to communicate with children in a second language. That shite is not easy and it is exhausting. Having said that the characterization of teachers as whiners who believe they are special little snowflakes is also true. Just possibly overstated. They certainly seem to believe they're the only ones with difficult jobs. Where I teach it's even worse. So fricking whiny. On the other hand their importance to our society is vastly understated. I can't comprehend a culture in which it seems to be the cool thing to do to disparage teachers.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 3:48 pm to
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 Sure, we get summers “off.” I should not need to mention that during that time we attend workshops, plan lessons and rewrite curriculum we rework to meet changing standards, but, apparently, I do. Here are some things people may not realize about the lives of teachers.




They should work for the big 4
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
4077 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:03 pm to
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schlow mo on 2/5 at 9:47 am


That's very nice of you to start a teacher bashing thread during the workday when the non-bitch-arse teachers are working. Perfect timing for a one-sided thread.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Professors at my university work from August 16-December 12th. Winter break runs from December 13 to January 14th. Spring semester lasts until May 9th. Most of them do not have to teach a summer class.



They are professors because they cannot handle teaching and creating a 90 minute lesson plan that consists of 6 different activities. They'd rather lecture for 90 minutes and care less if you are bored. They lecture future teachers about not lecturing to students. Some professors are great and hands on, but look at the older tenured professors at LSU. They have a much easier job. They just went to school longer.

I know teachers who make more than most Education professors. If you are not tenured, you don't get paid.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34871 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:33 pm to
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I have the credentials to be on television doing the weather but being "goody goody" when out in public would be challenging. Everyone would be saying "hey..there's the weatherman on channel 53 and he is with some dude or he's smoking a cig. Or "he just got upset with that waitress."



Obviously you've never seen Pat Shingleton out at bars
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 4:34 pm
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