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re: Teachers have it hard you guys

Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:31 am to
quote:

I know many teachers that make this statement a lie.



And therefore they are just like any body else who works for a living. Congrats (whiny) teachers, you are employed.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 10:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465337 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Education majors are consistently the dumbest. Second dumbest? Business majors.

i'd like to introduce you to sociology, african-american studies, women and gender studies, and psychology, my friend
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30879 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:34 am to
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And therefore they are just like any body else who works for a living. Congrats (whiny) teachers, you are employed.
I didn't say the teacher in the OP wasn't whiney. She is.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:35 am to
My dad was a teacher. I don't remember very many times where he took his work home with him. He got home at 3 and did whatever he wanted. Had to report a few times in the summer, but nothing crazy. He did retire earlier than he planned, because he hated dealing with high school students, and the administration was letting a lot more slide creating a bunch of shitty students.

However, I could not deal with that for what he was getting paid. It's sad that I've gotten more in raises in my 5 year career than what my dad's salary was when he retired after 30 years. But I deal with WAAAAYYYYYY more headache than a majority of teachers. I can get called 24/7 and when I do, millions of dollars are usually on the line. I work at the house all the time. It's not just teachers that have to do that, they just get defensive when they get called out for there cake work schedule.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:44 am to
Easy job imo
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:44 am to
I teach for subjects everyday. I which I could do one lesson plan and teach it all day. The subjects are Physical Science, Physics, Chemistry, and A.P. Chemistry.
Posted by Col reb 2011
#38
Member since Apr 2013
1614 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:49 am to
Yea but I wouldn't do that.. I would teach in "rich" school district because that's where I was raised and still have friends and family working for the school system. It's not what you know it's who you know and I know a lot of people
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:49 am to
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I teach for subjects everyday. I which I could do one lesson plan and teach it all day. The subjects are Physical Science, Physics, Chemistry, and A.P. Chemistry.


Good four you. I'm glad you don't teach English.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98740 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:51 am to
quote:

I teach for subjects everyday

what?

quote:

I which I could do one lesson plan and teach it all day.


you aren't helping your cause

Posted by Boner Stabone
Member since Feb 2015
91 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:54 am to
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Is there a more important profession that is less respected than being a teacher?


I think most people recognize the importance of teachers and how difficult and frustrating the job probably is at times. HOWEVER, it's when they get on their self-aggrandizing, woe-is-me platform where people who work equally as important and difficult jobs start to lose respect for them. Of course not all teachers (probably not even the majority) have this view of themselves, but it is enough of a vocal minority that do who paint the picture for the rest of the group.

quote:

Kids are awful, and dealing with them for menial wages would be awful.


Sure. But when you look at the benefits that far exceed most of the private sector, the "menial" wages are really that bad. In addition to substantial vacation time throughout the year, you're also looking at decent health insurance and excellent retirement benefits. There aren't many jobs where you can retire in your mid/late - 40's and receive a large percentage of your salary all while being able to go back to work and "double-dip". Finally, it's one of the few professions where one can reach a status after a relatively small amount of years where discharging them from their job becomes a difficult task (tenure).

No one has a problem with teachers until they start to act like they are the only working individuals who have difficult and demanding jobs. If the biggest difficulty you face in your life is that you have to look presentable when shopping at Wal-Mart, then things aren't that bad!
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8745 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:56 am to
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12363 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:56 am to
If you don't think teachers have a difficult job, then you simply aren't facing reality.

On the other hand, if we stopped treating teachers as glorified babysitters, perhaps we'd get better educators who stop fricking our children. The teaching profession is now a complete joke in the U.S.

Does anyone know any education majors that were actually smart? The bulk of the education majors I knew of were absolutely moronic sorority girls who were floating through college hoping to land a guy whose parents had money.

Did you know that in countries like Norway teachers are revered on the level of doctors? And we turn our kids over to Brittany Smith, the ditsy, half-teenager who can barely do an algebraic function and is pissed off that her job requires her to deal with screaming children all day, driving her to drink and screw The Boy Next Door.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47892 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:57 am to
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I wouldnt enjoy it, but there is little doubt that most people in other professions couldnt handle teaching.

Says one who has obviously not done it. I was an aerospace engineer for 33 years - a professional photographer for 15 years (10 overlapping) - and when I retired I started teaching math in my home town high school.

I had the advantage that I didn't "have" to do it - I could walk away anytime it got too much trouble. I finally did that after 11 years - It was just not worth it any more to put up with all the extra crap introduced by implementation of the common core standards. (I loved the CC standards - but the bureaucrats had to make the implementation a fricking nightmare)

The summer off was a great perk, but the rest of the year required more non-paid work than any one of you can imagine. I worked a minimum of 10 hours a day and almost all of every weekend. Of course I took my job seriously and actually graded everything I assigned. Never worked harder or longer, or got paid less, or enjoyed it more in my prior 40 years of work.

I have never complained about it - and I reply only to say that teachers complain no more - or less - than other professions. A lot of you seem just love to jump on the 'whining teacher' meme - and that does piss me off.

So I complain about your ignorant whining about 'whining teachers.'
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98740 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Does anyone know any education majors that were actually smart? The bulk of the education majors I knew of were absolutely moronic sorority girls who were floating through college hoping to land a guy whose parents had money.


I don't even think we should require degrees for elementary teachers....maybe a two year deal.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85809 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:58 am to
LOL. Can't stay home because of the guilt.

Well frick, I can't stay home because of the deposition I have scheduled for tomorrow.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:59 am to
Think about the chicks we all knew in college who were studying to become teachers. Does it surprise anyone that these people are whiny, drama queen attention whores?
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:59 am to
Nah bruh, social sciences and humanities way outstrip business and education majors. These two majors are a big drag on the university system, and largely a waste of resources. In fact, the proverbially unprofitable English major does better financially over his or her lifetime than the business major.

GRE scores across majors:



Source: LINK



Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:02 am to
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In fact, the proverbially unprofitable English major does better financially over his or her lifetime than the business major.


:kige:
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34871 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:03 am to
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I should not need to mention that during that time we attend workshops, plan lessons and rewrite curriculum we rework to meet changing standards, but, apparently, I do.



Does this bitch really think other professions don't have to do CE and workshops, seminars, re-qualifications, etc?

This bitch would have a nervous breakdown taking a practice PE exam.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19155 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:05 am to
I taught as a TA during grad school. I hated it. I could not imagine teaching kids let alone college students like I did. I have multiple family members who are teachers. They all get at least six weeks of the summer off. Some worked side jobs for more cash even. I am not on the bash teacher train but some of these teachers complaining are either 1) being overly over dramatic or2) horrible with time management.
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