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Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:00 am to
You want them to make more money?

Keep the fricktards out of the profession. Make it harder to become a teacher.

Based on that daft rant, you likely wouldn't support that because you wouldn't hack it as a teacher.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32716 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:00 am to
Let's do some math to compare to your idea for teachers' pay. Most babysitters work for $10/hour. Despite them not usually being paid per child, ill pay that per child.

$10/hour/kid * 30 kids * 8 hours = $2400 per day * 180 days = $432,000! More than the president of the fricking United States!

Edit: OP is an idiot, therefore most likely a teacher. Teachers aren't babysitters. I don't pay a teacher to give individual attention to my kid all day
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 11:02 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25097 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:01 am to
quote:

$50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day


Just imagine if teachers worked year round like the rest of us at that rate of pay.

So 52 weeks (with 2 weeks paid vacation) x 5 work days = 260 days.
260 days x $277.77/day = $72,220 a year


$50,000 a year isn't a bad gig considering how much time off it comes with: 2.5 months summer vacation, a week off for Thanksgiving, 2 weeks off for Christmas and New Years, a week off for spring break, the minor holidays that only banks and government employees seem to get off, plus a few other miscellaneous days with no school throughout the year.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42913 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:02 am to
Good Lord I didnt realize how much time they got off until you broke it down like that...

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

3 months of PTO??????
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:02 am to
Mine's in a private catholic school where he at least he doesn't have to deal with trashy kids. shite education, but at least I know what I'm working with.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25151 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:03 am to
Teachers are underpaid, yet there is an abundance of labor available at this market wage.

Seems like this may be the biggest hole in your Facebook rant post, if this was an unacceptable wage for the job, people would not be willing to work for it.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53561 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:04 am to
You forgot though, teachers are the only ones who put in extra hours they "don't get paid for"
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:04 am to
quote:

each things the kids can employ to solve problems, just random memorization. frick em,
So me teaching Chemistry to a kid who becomes and Chemical Engineer, or teaching Physics to a Kid who becomes a Mechanical or electrical Engineer is babysitting?
ETA: frick You
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2836 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:04 am to
So who pays for the day-to-day operation of a school and all of the supplies that little Johnny and Susie need to learn?What about the typically robust benefits package that a teacher receives?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59380 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:04 am to
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They are just babysitters, and a 1:1 babysitter should get paid better. They treat our kids like cattle and basically just waste time with useless parlor trick type eduction. They aren't smart enough to actually teach things the kids can employ to solve problems, just random memorization. frick em, make em be smarter before you pay them more.


I'm sorry that you had shitty teachers. Seriously, though, frick you.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:05 am to
quote:

You forgot though, teachers are the only ones who put in extra hours they "don't get paid for"
Poor teachers.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53561 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:06 am to
quote:

So me Chemistry to a kid who becomes and Chemical Engineer, or teaching Physics to a Kid who becomes a Mechanical or electrical Engineer is babysitting? 


Well, I sure as hell don't want you teaching any kids English.
Posted by Dave lsu 89
B.R,/ Houston
Member since Jun 2016
3879 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:06 am to
could be worse education, mine is in JV cheer, as well as comp cheer, and her mom, my ex expects her to keep up better than she has now? 3.6? back home in the day Redemportoist and Catholic High were 2 of the top schools, and im f...ing Protestant!
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42913 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:06 am to
Unless you are a professor at a college, what you teach tommy/susy at Elementary/Middle/High School in the big picture isnt worth jack shite.

Large percentage of incoming students are having to retake remedial math courses before they even take real college level courses.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46269 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:06 am to
If they don't like what they are paid, they should pick another job.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:07 am to
I have physics and electrical engineering degrees and I work as a mechanical engineer and yea, those grade school teachers were pretty much useless. I was smarter than anyone who tried to teach me math or science until college. Literally.
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:08 am to
southernelite EABOD
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:08 am to
quote:

They aren't smart enough to actually teach things the kids can employ to solve problems, just random memorization. frick em, make em be smarter before you pay them more.
People will become angry at this, but it is the absolute truth.

The market is oversaturated with "teachers". It is an easy profession to enter. Make it harder and more selective and you'll see more intelligent people become teachers.

You will also see the pay increase.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by Dave lsu 89
B.R,/ Houston
Member since Jun 2016
3879 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:09 am to
I agree, however we should more stringies and pay to the teachers that lead our children, no?
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3984 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:09 am to
GOOD teachers deserve more and GOOD STEM teachers deserve a lot more but you can GTFO out on all the whining. No one has been drafted against their will into the teaching profession and the compensation structure hasn't been revamped with no warning. You knew what you were getting into. Own it.
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