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Teacher in Uvalde didn’t leave door propped open
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:32 pm
At least according to a statement her attorney released, that video seems to confirm. Article is behind a paywall here..
San Antonio Express
The gist of it is she heard the truck crash and went out to check on it. The door is often propped open with a rock. When she went out she saw the driver firing a gun, so ran back inside, kicking the rock out of the way and slamming the door behind her. The door lock malfunctioned or the door didn’t close all the way. She assumed it had locked bahind her as that door is supposed to remain locked.
San Antonio Express
The gist of it is she heard the truck crash and went out to check on it. The door is often propped open with a rock. When she went out she saw the driver firing a gun, so ran back inside, kicking the rock out of the way and slamming the door behind her. The door lock malfunctioned or the door didn’t close all the way. She assumed it had locked bahind her as that door is supposed to remain locked.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 3:33 pm
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:33 pm to The Spleen
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The door is often propped open with a rock.
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that door is supposed to remain locked.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:36 pm to LegendInMyMind
If she moved the rock and pulled the door shut and the locking mechanism malfunctioned then that's on the district for not maintaining those facilities.
And I'm not terribly surprised. I don't know many schools at this point that don't have buzzed entry at the very least on doors (and a notification system if a door is propped open).
And I'm not terribly surprised. I don't know many schools at this point that don't have buzzed entry at the very least on doors (and a notification system if a door is propped open).
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:38 pm to The Spleen
I don't think the lady needs an attorney or to be tried for anything either way... but still sounds like it's her fault the door wasn't locked even if that's true.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:41 pm to NATidefan
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till sounds like it's her fault the door wasn't locked even if that's true.
Not if the locking mechanism malfunctioned due to poor maintenance. Let's hope a proper investigation is done which gives real answers, though I'm not holding my breath this happens.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:42 pm to NATidefan
I hope she did everything possible to secure that door but this sounds a lot like lawyer spin. Prayers sent to the families of the victims of this terrible event.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:43 pm to PsychTiger
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Not if the locking mechanism malfunctioned due to poor maintenance
Well, not in that case. But if she didn't pull it shut and make sure it locked and just let it bang behind her.. I'd say still her fault.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:44 pm to The Spleen
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kicking the rock out of the way
who put the rock there?? she did correct?
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:44 pm to JoePepitone
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I hope she did everything possible to secure that door but this sounds a lot like lawyer spin.
That's my thought.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:45 pm to MikeBRLA
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who put the rock there?? she did correct?
I don’t know that it’s officially been clarified that it was her.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:48 pm to MikeBRLA
In my experience, it’s very common to have something to prop doors open like this. My place of employment does, though it’s not a school. I have no idea who put it there. It’s been there since the day I started and I’ve seen it propped open a few times.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:48 pm to The Spleen
Let’s blame everyone but the piece of shite who did the killing.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:48 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I don’t know that it’s officially been clarified that it was her.
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The door is often propped open with a rock. When she went out she saw the driver firing a gun, so ran back inside, kicking the rock out of the way and slamming the door behind her.
Seems pretty clear from the quote above that they simply left off the part about her putting the rock there. They act as though the door magically propped itself open "often".
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:50 pm to The Spleen
It is so hard to blame guns with this faulty door narrative. So, we will not get a lot of reporting on it.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:50 pm to The Spleen
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a statement her attorney released
An attorney casting doubt on an probably-unprovable fact is a given
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When she went out she saw the driver firing a gun, so ran back inside, kicking the rock out of the way and slamming the door behind her. The door lock malfunctioned or the door didn’t close all the way. She assumed it had locked bahind her as that door is supposed to remain locked.
This sounds like nonsense
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:50 pm to MikeBRLA
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Seems pretty clear from the quote above that they simply left off the part about her putting the rock there. They act as though the door magically propped itself open "often".
I mean, it's feasible that someone else could have put it there and she just happened to see it was propped when she went to check when she heard the gunfire.
I've unpropped doors in a school before where someone had left it propped open.
That's what I meant by I wasn't sure whether they clarified whether she was the one that initially propped it open.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:55 pm to The Spleen
The problem with all these doors at most schools is they were originally used to go between separate buildings, etc. And people want to continue to use them that way and let anyone do it.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
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she just happened to see it was propped when she went to check when she heard the gunfire.
To clarify because I left it off, she went out to check on the wreck and called 911. When he started firing, she ran back inside and closed the door behind her. I’m guessing she did in fact prop the door open initially.
It could be BS, but I saw mention of there being a video of her closing the door behind her. I haven’t seen that video though.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:56 pm to NATidefan
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don't think the lady needs an attorney or to be tried for anything either way... but still sounds like it's her fault the door wasn't locked even if that's true.
No shite. In this instance, she should have absolutely checked the door. If it's malfunctioning after a couple tries, then make an emergency announcement to have all interior doors locked. It's not like the ditch was 5 ft from the door and the dude was chasing the teacher into the building.
If it locked back, then great. If not, then take your damn phone out and call the front office to put out an immediate overhead announcement to lock down everything, and call 911. We now know 911 wasn't going to be any real help, but you should never count on that anyways.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:57 pm to BluegrassBelle
Maybe so, but she admits that the door was propped open often, which is surely against security protocols. Unless she has documented proof where she had reported said security protocol being violated to administration, that means that she was complacent with it.
At that point it really doesn't matter if she propped it open that particular time or not,,, she new it was propped open often and was 'ok' with it.
At that point it really doesn't matter if she propped it open that particular time or not,,, she new it was propped open often and was 'ok' with it.
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