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re: Teacher forced to resign after student steals her phone and shares nude pics
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:15 pm to mikelbr
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:15 pm to mikelbr
What if, at her desk on her work desktop, she left her personal Gmail account up and didn't lock her computer and walked away.
Same thing happens, slimy kid gets on her computer, finds nudes of her in her sent emails and emails em out to other kids.
Still not her responsibility? I'm really wondering how important how the photos were stored will matter, if at all.
Same thing happens, slimy kid gets on her computer, finds nudes of her in her sent emails and emails em out to other kids.
Still not her responsibility? I'm really wondering how important how the photos were stored will matter, if at all.
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:17 pm to shel311
that's not even the same thing. one is he personal property that someone stole. One is company property which shouldn't be used for personal stuff anyway.
no assumption of privacy on company equipment.
no assumption of privacy on company equipment.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:17 pm to shel311
quote:
work desktop
not her private property
quote:
her phone
her private property
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:17 pm to shel311
quote:and also whether it was or could have been password protected.
I'm really wondering how important how the photos were stored will matter, if at all.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:18 pm to shel311
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whether it was or could have been password protected.
Does not matter. Her private property was stolen and distributed.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:18 pm to MorbidTheClown
Fair enough, bad example.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:19 pm to shel311
quote:
What if, at her desk on her work desktop, she left her personal Gmail account up and didn't lock her computer and walked away.
Same thing happens, slimy kid gets on her computer, finds nudes of her in her sent emails and emails em out to other kids.
Still not her responsibility? I'm really wondering how important how the photos were stored will matter, if at all.
If the image is not local and is stored on a server then how is it any different than if the kid had stolen her phone and gone to a website? By the arguments of those saying it is the teacher's fault then if the image is stored on a server and not on the phone physically then it is no different than the kid looking up fappening or r/gw images.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:20 pm to Darth_Vader
So if I were to send a dick pic to a teacher right now, and a kid in her class did what this one just did 5 minutes later, the teacher should be fired?
Accessing a pic in iMessage is just as easy as accessing one in a phone's camera roll. And semantics aside, using the argument that she "brought a phone with porn on it to school" school should still apply, no?
Accessing a pic in iMessage is just as easy as accessing one in a phone's camera roll. And semantics aside, using the argument that she "brought a phone with porn on it to school" school should still apply, no?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:20 pm to NoHoTiger
quote:so how much of your own private property are you allowed to bring to work, at a place with minors?
Her private property was stolen and distributed.
What if it were a personal, private bag full of dildos?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:22 pm to shel311
i don't understand how this is even an argument.
the kid stole her phone. it all ends there.
the kid stole her phone. it all ends there.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:22 pm to shel311
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What if it were a personal, private bag full of dildos?
Am I bringing dildos and storing them on company property or am I bringing images of dildos stored on my phone?
Am I the Sex Ed teacher using dildos for purposes of how to properly use condoms or to show the proper blow job technique to random students not enrolled in Sex Ed?
Big difference on both counts.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:25 pm to MorbidTheClown
quote:
i don't understand how this is even an argument.
the kid stole her phone. it all ends there.
Exactly
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:28 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:
If the image is not local and is stored on a server then how is it any different than if the kid had stolen her phone and gone to a website? By the arguments of those saying it is the teacher's fault then if the image is stored on a server and not on the phone physically then it is no different than the kid looking up fappening or r/gw images.
Exactly. It's very blurry gray area. I'm only suggesting that employers stay out of what's on a personal device b/c everything is too connected to nitpick regulate.
Reinstate the teacher, make it policy that all personal phones on campus are passcode protected when locked. Expel the kid(SC needs revenge porn laws ASAP). Move forward.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:34 pm to mikelbr
i think it's only fair that nudes of the kid's mom be shared with everyone at school.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:36 pm to bigpetedatiga
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The kid had to take the phone, open it up, and search through it. That is a little more involved than stumbling across it
No doubt about this. It truly unfortunate for her. But, I'd say the reason it's wrong to have that on your phone would be because this could happen.
People can say what they want, but what the kid did was not theft (in regards to accessing the phone, not distributing the picture). It may have been wrong and against the schools rules, but it isn't theft. If you leave your phone on your desk and I pick it up, swipe and start looking at texts, I love for you to call the police on me. I'm sure they'll rush over and arrest me for "theft".
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:38 pm to KG6
well, yeah, it's dumb to have this shite on your phone anyway. but, the fact that the kid stole it isn't her fault.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:39 pm to NoNameTiger
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I agree and I'm surprised others so strongly feel she was in the wrong here
I don't think she was in the wrong per se. I more think that the school has an argument and can stand behind their decision from a legal standpoint
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:41 pm to KG6
Taking and possessing someone's property without their permission is, by definition, theft
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:43 pm to KG6
quote:
No doubt about this. It truly unfortunate for her. But, I'd say the reason it's wrong to have that on your phone would be because this could happen.
People can say what they want, but what the kid did was not theft (in regards to accessing the phone, not distributing the picture). It may have been wrong and against the schools rules, but it isn't theft. If you leave your phone on your desk and I pick it up, swipe and start looking at texts, I love for you to call the police on me. I'm sure they'll rush over and arrest me for "theft".
I get into your unlocked vehicle and start rummaging around, you call the police. What is the difference? Both are personal property that the person accessing knows does not belong to them.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:43 pm to KG6
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I don't think she was in the wrong per se. I more think that the school has an argument and can stand behind their decision from a legal standpoint
I actually agree that the school can fire her if they feel it's in their best interest.
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