re: Target to allow Transgender in women's bathrooms

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he never identified as transgender

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OK, you spoke of common sense a moment ago. If they had called the cops all the guy had to do was tell them he "identifies" as a woman. There's nothing in the law giving any guidelines of how feminine he has to appear. All he's got to do is claim he "identifies" as a woman and he's in the clear. So using that common sense you mentioned earlier, don't you think he'd have done this if the cops had been called?

And if anything, this story illustrates how insane and out of control this "transgender" issues has become. I guarantee the main reason the staff (or any parents) never called the cops on this guy is they were afraid of being labeled as "intolerant" and bigots against someone in the LGBT "community". Yeah he may have never even have come out and said the words to the staff, but the mere mention of the law was enough to get them to cow down and let him do as he pleased.

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correct

which is where the "gray" comes in play with these laws

at what point does a person have to resemble the opposite sex before they are able to use the other facilities? I don't think just saying "I'm a woman" while wearing men's clothes and having masculine features should suffice.

So should they just be able to put on a dress and a wig? maybe?

But just like the case with Chester the Molester going into a boys locker room and sitting in the corner watching little boys change, as a parent I will instruct my daughter to come get me if she ever feels uncomfortable.

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And there's the problem. Once you no longer limit locker room or bathroom use based on actual physical characteristics, and instead allow people to use whatever they want based on what they "identify" as, there really is no way to set a guideline on just how much the person has to look like their chosen gender. They can appear as much like a women or as little like a woman as they want since the concept of "femininity" is subject to the differing views of individuals. It won't matter. All that will matter is they claim to "identify" as that gender.

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But just like the case with Chester the Molester going into a boys locker room and sitting in the corner watching little boys change, as a parent I will instruct my daughter to come get me if she ever feels uncomfortable.

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And when you confront "him/her" you'll be at best branded a bigot and "homophobic" or at worst be charged with harassment and violating their civil rights.

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And there's the problem.

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which is why it is such a debate

there are plenty of trans people that look just like women that just want to use the restroom, which is who these laws are supposed to be created for and protect

but with anything, yes, there will be people that abuse the laws

how often this abuse actually happens, I don't know, but I doubt it is anymore than pervs that are already allowed in locker rooms with little boys

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While your point of view is valid, I choose to fight the fights that are worth fighting & whose face that's on my cash just isn't one of them. The Constitution, the Federal Gov't, immigration, etc are fights worth fighting.

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It's not just about a face on currency, nor is it just about a statue, or a college mascot name, or a business' decision to allow trannies to use gender-opposite bathrooms, it's about all of those things and everything else not mentioned that, although each of little singular importance, together act as indicators of where our society is and where it's heading. And it's not anywhere good.

It's like a Cold War of societal norms and each little thing, albeit insignificant by itself, is another victory and another step in the wrong direction. That's when you wake up and think, "how the hell did we get here??"

"Silence implies consent"

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It's not just about a face on currency, nor is it just about a statue, or a college mascot name, or a business' decision to allow trannies to use gender-opposite bathrooms, it's about all of those things and everything else not mentioned that, although each of little singular importance, together act as indicators of where our society is and where it's heading. And it's not anywhere good.

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You have a problem with a black womans face being on currency.

Perhaps you're the idiot

I mean Jesus fricking Christ man I'm embarrassed for you

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What's stopping her from using the rest room somewhere else if she is uncomfortable? I'd tell her to man the frick up.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you'll change you mind once you get married or have a daughter.

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The other side is that we already have legislation/laws to make sexual harassment, voyeurism, rape, etc. illegal.

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The other side doesn't give a flying frick about the feelings of women who don't want men in the restroom.

Deal with it is the mantra I'm hearing.

Minnesota based Target starts allowing transgenders in women's bathrooms. The next day, the most famous person in Minnesota dies.

At least you are honest when you show that you don't give a frick about how others think about your AGENDA issues. I can respect that.