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re: taking legal gummies in colorado

Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:25 am to
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19151 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:25 am to
UPS me bro
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72410 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:35 am to
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The federal government needs to get on board and remove weed from the list of Schedule I drugs.


Just remember, kids. Our benevolent government overseers know best which plants and fungi we should be allowed to consume.
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1843 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:58 am to
Possession of Firearm with CDS is illegal and in most cases a felony, and while I dont agree with weed or gummmies being listed as a CDS, it is what it is. As much as you post about weapons in the Outdoor Board you may really want to rethink what you post on here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299087 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:01 am to
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Also, labels on most of those products is suspect at best.



True. Even though they've supposedly been tested, you'll get wildly different results.
Posted by jflsufan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
5173 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:15 am to
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Why do so many people need alcohol/drugs/something to get through life instead of being sober?


Bitches man bitches.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17671 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:22 am to
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Delta 8 is from a 100% chemical manufacturing process starting with hemp, which also yields some delta 9 and 10 as co-products, which is why you can pop positive on a drug screen even if you consumed “100% legal delta 8.”

Many places are selling legal hemp derived delta 9 THC products.

Now what I'm not sure of is if it's the same process as making delta 8, (CBD->D8 chemical process). Or if they're just straight up concentrating the natural delta 9 THC from hemp.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299087 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:25 am to
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Why do so many people need alcohol/drugs/something to get through life instead of being sober?


Because for some people, a drink or a joint will enrich their experience, not shunt it.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
11184 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:43 am to
think i might try some delta 9
Posted by captainpodnuh
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
519 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:14 am to
Agreed about the available OTC products.

The delta 9 that is available from hemp-derived products must legally be <0.3%. So basically, it’s a hemp-derived CBD product that allegedly complies with the legal limit. You would have to consume a metric shite ton at this low concentration to fail a drug test. Which also means you aren’t getting high from anything sold in a gas station.

To answer your question, the delta 9 is not chemically derived. It’s just the natural process of extracting the CBD from the hemp and they can concentrate it up to the ceiling of <0.3%. The D9&10 is naturally occurring. The D8 is not.

The delta 8 products often contain more delta 9 and 10 than the 0.3% limit which is why you can fail a drug test. The “legal” battle that is ongoing is the the delta 8 is derived from hemp, therefore it’s perfectly legal. Even with the D9/10 concentrations. Most companies don’t care and are terming based upon the D9/10 metabolites in the drug test. So roll the dice on your delta 8.

So the takeaway is the delta 9 CBD gummies that are <0.3% are not going to fail your drug test while the Delta 8 product may cause you to bust. If that makes sense.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17671 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:21 am to
That's where I'm confused about the legality. Wonder if that means that the original hemp must be <0.3%.

I can go right now and buy some Hemp derived D9 products from Cypress Hemp over the counter.

Here's an example of some of their drops. These are 50% D9 THC.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23763 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:49 am to
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That's where I'm confused about the legality. Wonder if that means that the original hemp must be <0.3%.


You left out the part that leaves it open for loopholes. It's "<0.3% by dry weight" according to the 2018 farm bill. When it's testing hemp biomass, it's very straightforward. When testing other items (like gummies and oils), the USDA and DEA both did not put any guidance into the law for what dry weight actually means.

There's recent flower products out as well that get around the 0.3% D9 requirement by being bred to be high in THCA, which converts to D9 during combustion.

This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by captainpodnuh
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
519 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:50 am to
So now it’s a math question based upon ingenuity.

That 2 fluid oz bottle in your example could contain up to about 180 mg of delta 9 and remain under the 0.3% by dry weight legal limit for hemp-derived product.

Dosing depends entirely on your own body and if you are playing the beginner or advanced course.
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6972 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:57 am to
The dispensary rules are a scam and designed to favor the politicians. The delta 8 and 9 can be used like the marijuana meds and sold in the pharmacies, if they wished. The Baton Rouge pharmacy is absurdly expensive. At least one product is $40 more in BR than someplace else. It’s mostly a scam for the politicians and pharmacy owners.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23763 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:02 pm to
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The dispensary rules are a scam and designed to favor the politicians.


The author of the original bill actually owns one of the dispensing pharmacies. Louisiana at its finest.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32879 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:12 pm to
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Possession of Firearm with CDS is illegal and in most cases a felony, and while I dont agree with weed or gummmies being listed as a CDS, it is what it is. As much as you post about weapons in the Outdoor Board you may really want to rethink what you post on here.


I can’t speak for any other jurisdiction, but the statute in Louisiana is worded in a very specific way. La. R.S. 14:95 subsection E:
quote:

E. If the offender uses, possesses, or has under his immediate control any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, while committing or attempting to commit a crime of violence or while unlawfully in the possession of a controlled dangerous substance except the possession of fourteen grams or less of marijuana, or during the unlawful sale or distribution of a controlled dangerous substance, the offender shall be fined not more than ten thousand dollars and imprisoned at hard labor for not less than five nor more than ten years without the benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence. Upon a second or subsequent conviction, the offender shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than twenty years nor more than thirty years without the benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence.


First, possession of the CDS must be unlawful, so if you have a prescription, it doesn’t count. Second, any possession of marijuana under 14g doesn’t trigger the statute.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299087 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:14 pm to
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The dispensary rules are a scam


Yep, its govt granting highly restrictive markets with tight barriers to entry.

Cronyism.
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1843 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 2:18 pm to
Feds dont care about the states laws. It's illegal on a federal level, and you'll be charged on a federal level.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36075 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 2:31 pm to
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Feds dont care about the states laws. It's illegal on a federal level, and you'll be charged on a federal level.


As long as you have an alibi for 1/6, the feds don’t care about you breaking laws.
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
11263 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 2:33 pm to
The best thing they have in Colorado is the odorless, colorless weed powder. It looks like an equal packet and you can pour it in a coke or bottled water and no one will notice.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48863 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 2:37 pm to
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weed powder
it’s THC powder, brand name is “ripple” and yes it’s great

Comes in 10/0, 5/5 and 0.5/20 mg THC/CBD
I load up when I visit there
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