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re: Take Em Down NOLA is back

Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28116 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:54 pm to
This is why I don’t like to give in to activist groups... because they never stop.

They never just pack up and disband after they get what they “want”. They always have to move on to the next thing or take the previous fight even further to justify their existence.

It’s the same thing with the gun debate. Even though I don’t care at all if bump stocks are banned, you know that giving in will just embolden the anti-gun movement. You can’t give them an inch.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:02 pm to
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But, the removal of P.G.T. Beauregard monument was the hugest tragedy out of all this nonsense.


Disagree. The battle of liberty place monument was the biggest. It had the names of Metropolitan Police killed at the battle along with the names of the White League.

Its abhorrent that the names of police officers KIA get taken down to further a bogus political presidiential run.

This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111643 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:05 pm to
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But, the removal of P.G.T. Beauregard monument was the hugest tragedy out of all this nonsense.


If for no other reason than simply pure aesthetics, it's hard to disagree.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:08 pm to
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This is the equivalent of a change.org petition. A handful of people get up-set about something and it gets a news story. Nothing is going to happen.


And how did it start the first time?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:11 pm to
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But, the removal of P.G.T. Beauregard monument was the hugest tragedy out of all this nonsense


Totally agree. Lee had zero nexus to New Orleans, I dont think he ever visited the city. But Beauregard, had pre war, war and reconstruction ties to the city. And oh by the way was a promoter of rights for blacks when that was not a popular position in the South. Plus his statue was an actual work of art, the detail is impressive.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66889 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:17 pm to
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And how did it start the first time?

Mitch wanted to act tough for his black mistress.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16221 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:19 pm to
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And how did it start the first time?



The SC shooting which was followed by the Confederate flag coming down in SC followed by Mitch spear heading the removal effort. Bring em down Nola was not getting anything accomplished until Mitch threw his hat in the ring. I think we can all agree he didn't do this because of pressure from the handful of people in this group.

This group and any others just rode Mitch's coat tails for some limelight.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2864 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Lee had zero nexus to New Orleans, I dont think he ever visited the city. But Beauregard, had pre war, war and reconstruction ties to the city. And oh by the way was a promoter of rights for blacks when that was not a popular position in the South. Plus his statue was an actual work of art, the detail is impressive.


Lee was briefly stationed at Jackson Barracks (in New Orleans) prior to the Mexican War. More importantly though, the statue was connected to the 12,000 Louisiana soldiers, majority from N.O., who fought in Lee's Army of Northern Virginia as the Louisiana Fighting Tigers. They were extremely dedicated to him. Funding and momentum for the Lee statue began during Reconstruction, long before Jim Crow laws and the cementing of racial rules via Plessy vs Ferguson. It was the first of the statues. But yes, taking down Beauregard is the height of ignorance and narrow minded righteousness.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:25 pm to
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"If you want to remove history, take down the levees and turn the shithole back into a swamp"
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38515 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:31 pm to
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If for no other reason than simply pure aesthetics, it's hard to disagree.


Politics aside, it was one of the finest equestrian statues around .......that and the Joan of Arc statue. Is Suber looking to take down the Maid or Orleans?
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2864 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:32 pm to
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The guy was an abolitionist who helped found the nation of Liberia in Africa for free slaves to return home. Proof pr0g filth don't read history.


As was proven with Beauregard, they only care that he was a slaveowner at one time (Clay owned a few dozen). His views changed and he supported gradual abolition and re-integration to Africa (Similar to what Lincoln supported, except Lincoln was shooting for Central America).

BTW, Liberian history is pretty fascinating. The former American slaves went there, took it over, and treated the natives like 2nd class citizens and wanted to use them as cheap labor (not necessarily slaves, though). Pictures from the late 19th century show the Liberian upper class wearing hoop skirts and tails and tophats that look to be straight from a 1860 Alabama plantation. Weird as all get out.
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11553 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:33 pm to
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Modern Day Oppression

quote:

Down with ALL Symbols of White Supremacy in New Orleans


It's only a matter of time before these get added to their list.



Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2864 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:35 pm to
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Joan of Arc statue. Is Suber looking to take down the Maid or Orleans?
Joan of Arc was spray-painted as a target. Not sure if she's officially on the list, but she gets vandalized as a "symbol of oppression."
Would love to hear from one of these clowns as to how St. Joan is oppressive. Betting lots of "ums" and "uhs"
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:36 pm to
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it was one of the finest equestrian statues around .


I've been to a ton of battlefields and I dont think I've ever seen anything like it, a real work of art.

*Shameless plug for the Museum Of the Confederacy on Camp across from the WW2 Museum. Survives on donations only and is one of two facilities in the country authorized to restore/repair unit battle flags.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:56 pm to
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Is Suber looking to take down the Maid or Orleans?


Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:02 pm to
What did Joan of Arc do? Wasn't she persecuted herself?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:03 pm to
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What did Joan of Arc do? Wasn't she persecuted herself?


Being White is her crime
Posted by Whodat28
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2016
775 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:06 pm to
its always been crap
moving to Dallas has opened my eyes to the crap that i use to live in
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:10 pm to
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What did Joan of Arc do? Wasn't she persecuted herself?


I think some are pissed that her statue is in New Orleans and represents white culture and heritage and French colonialism.

Personally I think its a fine statue.
Posted by CajunInFL
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2007
2118 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:13 pm to
I thought we didn't negotiate with terrorists?

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