re: Take 40 minutes to watch Elon’s vision for making life interplanetary

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He says as he bleats like a sheep

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Good luck finding anyone here who supports that ideal. Musk dont, MAGA dont.
Musk is left of center, and you morons still cant figure that out.

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As the sun grows more into a red giant (in ~2 billion years) working to inhabit Titan may be a a more suitable option.

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In 2 billion years we probably wont be needing to think about where else we are going to preserve human life (if we are still even really human) in our solar system. hopefully we figure that out in the next 1000 years.

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being forced to deal with dumb negative energy no vision humans.

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Those of us who have doubts on Musk's vision arent just pissing on it for no reason. The timeline just for the HLS to go to the moon has been pushed back to 2028. We were supposed to be sending test flights a year ago and Starship still hasnt made orbit. Space travel is hard....shite happens and timelines get pushed back but Musk keeps promoting these timeline that simply dont make sense. I hope we get there in my life time. I think surely we will sometime this century, but probably only for short visits.

Also...while I generally support the pushing of boundaries for human exploration, this notion that Mars can or is going to serve as a insurance policy for humanity anytime soon is silly. We will have to genetically modify our selves to live on Mars long term as the environment will wreak havoc on every bodily system of folks that staying there long term. Thats not even considering the issues with reproduction. In fact I would say its unconscionable to even consider a colony on Mars until we understand how to counter the negative biological effects of a long term stay on Mars

the fact of the matter is the only place humans can live that we know of is…earth. If there were another earth like planet close enough to reach we’d know about it already. “Terraforming” is a science fantasy. The exploration of the solar system will be unmanned no matter what Elon musk says or does.

Forget mars, it’s a nightmare scenario for humanity plus there’s nothing there to make it worth our while. Nor is there anything on the moon. The big prize is in the asteroid belt…you would think the worlds richest man would be spending his time and energy trying to figure out how to mine and bring back some of that bonanza of riches just spinning around out there

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The exploration of the solar system will be unmanned no matter what Elon musk says or does.

Forget mars, it’s a nightmare scenario for humanity plus there’s nothing there to make it worth our while. Nor is there anything on the moon.

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I generally agree with everything you said.....Mars sucks...but I think getting human footprints on the planet would be/ could be a unifying effort for our species...but it would mostly an accomplishment for accomplishment sake. Perhaps we get some extraordinary spin off tech that gets us closer to the belt mining.

This has always been Reason #1 not to take Elon Musk seriously.

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He says as he bleats like a sheep

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by Galactic Inquisitor

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What do you mean you folks? Im not a member of the American left Rog.....and I dont hate him.....I started taking notice of his bullshitting ways and obvious mental issues about 4-5 years ago and its pretty much gotten worse.

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If you disagree, you're a leftist. It's a simple argument.

Im surprised and saddened by the upvote / down vote ratio this thread got.

What in the actual heck?

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NASA made it farther with a Casio calculator than Musk has made it with supercomputers running computational fluid dynamics.

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Hes aiming for sustainable life on Mars. The buildup towards that is immense and takes much longer than if the goal was merely to reach Mars