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re: Sydney Aus‘s St Vincent Hospital Murders Unvaxxed Girl Refusing to Give Lung Transplant

Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:20 am to
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13315 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:20 am to
Just as I don't condone "propagandic" reporting on the left, I don't condone it on the right either. This is gaslighting. The girl was denied for more reasons than refusing the jab. I won't begrudge her family as grief can cause folks to act out of character but the reporting is disingenuous trying to agendize a young girls death. It's shameful. Plenty of actual incidents that could further the "no vaccine" cause. Choosing sympathetic ones that don't pass the bullshite test is harmful to the movement.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37390 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:57 am to
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means she wasn't going to get a transplant in any case. Transplantable organs are a scarce commodity, and the very first criteria is that the patient be healthy enough to survive the transplant. If she was still having rejection episodes from a matched marrow transplant she would not even be considered for a lung transplant.

/thread.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4585 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:15 am to
They do it here. I know someone who needed a kidney transplant and hospitals here said no bc no jab. Finally, one did do it, but it took a long time. The medical profession is not our friend. Nor here to help us.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:19 am to
Right or wrong, if you don’t get vaccines you will never make the transplant list

Has been that way long before Covid ever existed. I have done many audits with LOPA

They have an at risk patient population clearly and finite resources(organs)

But this particular case has nothing to do with a vaccine it appears
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 8:22 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294428 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:25 am to
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Right or wrong, if you don’t get vaccines you will never make the transplant list


Its far left authoritarianism.


Thanks Covidians.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:22 am to
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Its far left authoritarianism. Thanks Covidians.
Been like this far far far before Covid was a thing and vaccine requirements would absolutely be looked more as a right leaning practice historically
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 9:23 am
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4585 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:25 am to
Covid “vaccine” should not be at play in this like it was here long after Covid. It is not a necessary vaccine.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:28 am to
Flu vaccines, pneumococcal, and others that have just as low mortality rates are also usually required to be on the transplant list

You have to understand the people on the transplant list are the mark vulnerable people our population has. Doctors and procurement services don’t want to waste an organ on someone who will die from something that can be prevented
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294428 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:31 am to
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Been like this far far far before Covid was a thing


Been here since the mid 60s, this was the dumbest, most pathetic basic bitch shite in my lifetime.

People afraid of their own shadow.

Covidians are very dumb humans with no instinct or common sense.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11825 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:34 am to
That's fricking horrible. I hope whoever made this decision gets arse cancer.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:36 am to
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Been here since the mid 60s, this was the dumbest, most pathetic basic bitch shite in my lifetime. People afraid of their own shadow. Covidians are very dumb humans with no instinct or common sense.
What in the hell are you rambling about?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294428 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:38 am to
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I hope whoever made this decision gets arse cancer.


Need to start tossing Covidians in prison.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19770 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:46 am to
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Doctors and procurement services don’t want to waste an organ on someone who will die from something that can be prevented


They did for Anthony Stokes. They saw all the warning signs of a non-compliant, non-deserving candidate, and they buckled under the pressure of the race hustlers, and gave him a heart anyway.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:47 am to
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They did for Anthony Stokes. They saw all the warning signs of a non-compliant, non-deserving candidate, and they buckled under the pressure of the race hustlers, and gave him a heart anyway.
And that was a horrific decision that should have never ever been made

The original doctors decision to not include him on the list was the 100% correct decision
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 9:50 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41819 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:49 am to
Her whole situation is quite sad.

My question is, have they denied eligible recipients solely because they weren’t vaxxed?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:50 am to
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My question is, have they denied eligible recipients solely because they weren’t vaxxed?
Yes. This girl? Had nothing to do with it

However, you will also see many times transplant recipients are not up to date on vaccines. It’s going to be at the discretion of the doctors and hospital at the time
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 9:52 am
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:54 am to
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Flu vaccines, pneumococcal, and others that have just as low mortality rates are also usually required to be on the transplant list

You have to understand the people on the transplant list are the mark vulnerable people our population has. Doctors and procurement services don’t want to waste an organ on someone who will die from something that can be prevented


The OT is not the place for sensibility and rationality.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:00 am to
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Do you just google news to get insanely pissed about and use this place to raise your blood pressure so you can meet your health insurance deductible earlier in the year?


My dude gets off on being self righteous.

Find something objectionable, and fricking rage! Show your virtue by being the angriest about it. No! Dont stop and ask if you got the full context or why this piece is trying to gty you mad!

Introspection is for pussies.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36957 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:04 am to
I can't believe that the covid vaccines are the only thing keeping her from getting the transplant. But I can't understand why the parents of a deathly ill child would refuse them if they are even the smallest of factors.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294428 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:07 am to
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Introspection is for pussies.


Holy shite...
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