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re: Sweden is still done with COVID

Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29155 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:13 pm to
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Sweden is still done with COVID

No they aren’t
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No mask mandates

Because Swedes worse masks en masse, voluntarily
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New data is pointing to 80-90% global population immunity based on T-cell immunity

Citation needed
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:15 pm to
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Their drop in cases has correlated almost exactly with their normal School and business summer shutdown from mid June to mud August.





Sweden's decline in deaths was well underway in April.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:49 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9859 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:16 pm to
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No they aren’t


Their deaths have been near zero for a while now and new cases have plummeted.

quote:


Because Swedes worse masks en masse, voluntarily


They have among the lowest rates of wearing masks in the developed world.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44048 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:17 pm to
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So do you have a link to this new data or should we just take your word for it?


Just take my word for it like you take CNN's word for it.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47310 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:18 pm to
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I imagine their overall health plays a role as well.

Their overall health has nothing to do with it. That would affect death rates not infection rates.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:19 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29155 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:19 pm to
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They have among the lowest rates of wearing masks in the developed world.

Citation needed, again
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47310 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:20 pm to
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I bet you only go to bars with a “tigerland dress code” to keep out people of color, and that don’t have sturdier seating options for people of size

Wait, there are bars like this? Can someone list them, so I can go?
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
12858 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:21 pm to
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And now Sweden is theoretically done. Let's compare the numbers again in a year.


By all means let's. Lots of countries thought they were "done". Israel (heh - that Israeli scientist who was touted on here looks pretty dumb now), Japan, Australia, Spain, Canada, Germany. There's no reason to think Sweden has reached herd immunity, their numbers (current cases still much higher than Finland, Denmark, Norway) are showing an uptick over the last two weeks, like a lot of places.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47310 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:23 pm to
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I have a doctor friend that lives in Stockholm. He says Sweden is a mess and all the elderly are dying. He also says that herd immunity is impossible.

Your doctor friend is an idiot. He has no idea whether herd immunity is possible.

But I agree that hydroxychloroquine probably was ineffective. Also, who gives a shite?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47310 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Norway 250 COVID Deaths
Finland 330 Deaths
Sweden 5700+ Deaths

Yeah, I’d say lockdowns worked better but don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion

You left out two important points:

1. Sweden is unlike those two countries. It's much more internationalist and has a higher percentage of people living in a dense city, so we would expect a higher death toll.
2. Sweden is done with the virus, and it sustained much less economic damage. Furthermore, Norway and Finland still have a huge economic price to pay, Sweden does not.
3. Norway and Finland still have to suffer the infection wave (or sit tight until a vaccine is available).
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47310 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:30 pm to
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people would use common since then we would be wear Sweden is.

You are quite the spell checker, Mr. Breesus.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47310 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:33 pm to
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New data is pointing to 80-90% global population immunity based on T-cell immunity


I have been a big fan of Sweden's approach, but I have not seen evidence of this. Can you please link to that?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9859 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:33 pm to
LINK

It's not a list of countries, but it talks about the Swedish health authorities discouraging people from wearing them.

When I find the list of countries, I'll link that too.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33653 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:36 pm to
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fatties

Obvious racist dog whistle is obvious.

/s/ in case people don't know me better. Lol.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:37 pm to
Are they allowing people to enter the country? Surely they have had some form of lock downs. I think they mainly just wanted kids to go to school?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79738 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:42 pm to
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Civil disobedience is the answer. Do not follow mandates. They are pointless and not based on science. They are harming us far more than helping us.


Reply

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Governors are closing places of business for not following the mandates. You can either follow, or lose your arse and business.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6693 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:43 pm to
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Because Swedes worse masks en masse, voluntarily
False.

Only five to 10 per cent of Nordic citizens say they used a mask in public settings

ETA: If you don't like that link > LINK
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:48 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69061 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:45 pm to
That was 4 months ago
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67985 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:53 pm to
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You are quite the spell checker, Mr. Breesus.




Just call me Breesus. Mr. Breesus is my father's name.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52418 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:10 pm to
His percentage was right.

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What’s that come out to for a population of 330 million?


Around 182k
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