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re: Supreme Court rules non citizens can be held indefinitely without bond
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:33 pm to Brosef Stalin
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:33 pm to Brosef Stalin
quote:ding ding ding
Does this imply the Constitution only applies to citizens?
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:36 pm to ClientNumber9
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The current percentage of those who don't show up for their immigration court hearings before the judge sits about 86%.
I knew it was very high. I also believe a high percentage of illegals are people who have done just that.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:42 pm to NYNolaguy1
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The lead plaintiff in the class-action lawsuit, Alejandro Rodriguez, is an immigrant with permanent legal status who was convicted of possession of a controlled substance and joyriding. He was detained by immigration officials for three years without a bond hearing.
The ACLU took up his case, eventually winning his release and the cancellation of his deportation order. The government's appeal was begun under the Obama administration, and continued after President Trump took office last year
Thanks Obama.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:03 pm to Obtuse1
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If they work hard they can catch up to the 6th and 11th in overturn percentages!
Depends upon which metric you measure that on. The 9th is still first according to this method.
Full Reversal Rate Measure
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If there is a valuable reversal stat, it might be the "full reversal rate measure" proposed by Philadelphia lawyers John S. Summers and Michael J. Newman of Hangley Aronchick Segal Pudlin & Schiller. Summers and Newman base their reversal metric on cases where the Supreme Court examines circuit splits. That analysis can give a more accurate estimate of which circuits are closer to the Supreme Court's thought. Under that method, looking at the past seven terms, the Sixth is only the second most reversed circuit. The first? Yep, it's the Ninth, for what it's worth.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:24 pm to NYNolaguy1
Well the 9th Circuit really screwed up their ruling by stating that the statutes held that there must be a bond hearing every 6 months.
If they simply stated that the statute called for bond hearings to be held, and that detainees could not be held indefinitely with no review, then that would have likely not even been granted a writ.
The 9th Circuit overstepped here, and it should be on the Executive to issue a policy memo on detention review or the Legislative to clarify the statutes.
If they simply stated that the statute called for bond hearings to be held, and that detainees could not be held indefinitely with no review, then that would have likely not even been granted a writ.
The 9th Circuit overstepped here, and it should be on the Executive to issue a policy memo on detention review or the Legislative to clarify the statutes.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:28 pm to NYNolaguy1
It is about GAWD DAMN TIME 
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:33 pm to NYNolaguy1
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not claim guilt before and have no obligation for a trial.
So basically a rape accusation
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:43 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Depends upon which metric you measure that on.
The article you linked to gives insight into why reversal rates by SOTA are for the most part meaningless which was where I was going anyway. Since SOTA's review is discretionary the vast majority of the time they overturn cases in part or whole or they would never have granted cert to begin with. If one is actually concerned about how often a Fed Circuit court is "wrong" they need to view the numbers of partially and fully overturned cases against the number of total cases heard.
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