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Supreme Court rules non citizens can be held indefinitely without bond

Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:54 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:54 am
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Immigrants can be held by U.S. immigration officials indefinitely without receiving bond hearings, even if they have permanent legal status or are seeking asylum, the Supreme Court ruled Tuesday.

NPR reports that the Court ruled 5-3, with Justice Elena Kagan recusing, that immigrants do not have the right to periodic bond hearings. The ruling is a defeat for immigration advocates, who argued that immigrants should not be held for more than six months at a time without such a hearing.


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Jennings v. Rodriguez SCOTUS Decision
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:56 am to
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Supreme Court rules non citizens can be held indefinitely without bond



Good, It's nice to see they finally did something that is for the betterment of the country
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:58 am to
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Good, It's nice to see they finally did something that is for the betterment of the country



That's not the purpose of the court.

I have mixed feelings about the decision, but to expect the judiciary to do something 'for the betterment of the country' is exactly what leads to legislating from the bench.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 11:05 am
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:59 am to
Does this imply the Constitution only applies to citizens?
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:01 am to
Why would it take Immigration 3 years to determine if the complaintant in this case was legally authorized to be in the US?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:02 am to
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Does this imply the Constitution only applies to citizens?


Having not read the decision, it would seem so.

But this applies to all immigrants, legal and otherwise. It seems to me that basically if youre not a citizen you are a traffic stop away from being detained indefinitely, regardless if you are here legally or not. Thats not a small thing.
Posted by Bustedsack
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:03 am to
This is fricked up beyond belief.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:03 am to
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Why would it take Immigration 3 years to determine if the complaintant in this case was legally authorized to be in the US?


Backlog?

Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:04 am to
shite, I'm fricked.

And I'm legal.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:05 am to
where you from foreign baw
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:06 am to
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That's not the purpose of the court.



enforcing the constitution is for the betterment of the country
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:07 am to
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Does this imply the Constitution only applies to citizens?


Hopefully. The left's been trying to act like the Constitution applies to everyone in the world for years.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:08 am to
Mejico, can't you see my username?








Jk, Cameroon.

I've been eligible to become a citizen for a while now, finally applied earlier this year
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:08 am to
I am not disagreeing with that, but that is not the explicit purpose.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:09 am to
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but that is not the explicit purpose.


Upholding the constitution is


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the court affirmed the right of the government to detain immigrants while it determines whether they should be allowed in the country.

"Immigration officials are authorized to detain certain aliens in the course of immigration proceedings while they determine whether those aliens may be lawfully present in the country,"


Is for the betterment of the country
Posted by Coach Buzzcut
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:10 am to
Who the hell is going to do my landscaping now?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:11 am to
Honestly should have always been this way. I'm a humanitarian and all, but if you commit a violent crime intentionally or not, you have to realize there are consequences.
Posted by Vood
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:11 am to
From the article.


quote:

The Supreme Court ruling follows a Trump administration appeal of a ruling by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals last year that imposed a rule requiring immigrants held in custody be given a bond hearing every six months, as long as they aren't considered a flight risk or a danger to national security.
To impose a rigid six-month rule like the Court of Appeals did is really a mistake,” Solicitor General Ian Gershengorn said in November.


The 9th Circuit needs to be dismantled.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:12 am to
The part you quoted is fine,
but this doesn't make much sense
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even if they have permanent legal status 
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