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re: Super C Class RV Experts Only
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:59 am to Potchafa
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:59 am to Potchafa
Renegade's aren't in your budget unless you looking at the Ford.
Not aware of a SuperC Newmar in thar price range.
Jayco may fit your budget and is a good product for the price.
Go with a diesel.
Not aware of a SuperC Newmar in thar price range.
Jayco may fit your budget and is a good product for the price.
Go with a diesel.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 9:03 am
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:05 am to el Gaucho
quote:The youngest boomers are 60 years old.
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Not a boomer
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late 40's
Uhhh
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:12 am to Jim Rockford
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I think it would be great for a few months. No way I would want it to be a permanent lifestyle.
In the last 7 months I spent 3 weeks in Cambodia, 3 weeks in Cost Rica, 3 weeks on a NW road camping trip, 5 weeks on a SW road camping trip, The rest in hotels, and I am missing the road and planning on a NE trip when the weather allows.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:14 am to travelgamer
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travelgamer
Name checks out.
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Cambodia, 3 weeks in Cost Rica, 3 weeks on a NW road camping trip, 5 weeks on a SW road camping trip,
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:26 am to Potchafa
I've posted numerous times of Mrs. Cotten and I's living situation. Lived on the road full time for a few years, first in a Class C then in a Transit HR/EL. Hated the class c, love our Transit but that's just my opinion. We only ever boondocked in our Transit, the Class C limited us to RV parks and they all start to look/feel the same after awhile, no matter where you are in the country.
Used is the way to go, however I would never consider a single one of the total POS brands you listed. They are all garbage.
Additionally, it's not if shite breaks, it's when. If you are not handy and can fix random shite constantly yourself, get ready to pay up. If you aren't extremely handy or can pay the $$$ for a mobile RV repair guy you're going to be constantly fricked.
Used is the way to go, however I would never consider a single one of the total POS brands you listed. They are all garbage.
Additionally, it's not if shite breaks, it's when. If you are not handy and can fix random shite constantly yourself, get ready to pay up. If you aren't extremely handy or can pay the $$$ for a mobile RV repair guy you're going to be constantly fricked.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:28 am to Potchafa
250k would pay for a lot of gas and hotel rooms. being in an rv for more than a couple of days sounds miserable to me. different strokes, i guess.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:37 am to Tyga Woods
On the road you can see the America you are missing
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:39 am to Cotten
Renegade and Newmar are pretty good.
Jayco is decent.
Thor isn't as good as Jayco.
If you own any of 'em, you need to be handy bc the house stuff always needs maintenance.
Jayco is decent.
Thor isn't as good as Jayco.
If you own any of 'em, you need to be handy bc the house stuff always needs maintenance.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:40 am to travelgamer
Agree.
We enjoy that as well.
We enjoy that as well.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:43 am to Potchafa
Do not think a 4Runner can be flat towed. Its not listed in the 2023 TOAD guide. That means it would have to have a transmission disconnect or be towed on a dolly, either way a pain in the arse. All Jeep Wranglers and domestic 4 WD pickups can be flat towed...put the transfer case in neutral and you are golden. Flat towing is the ONLY way to go....dolly's and transmission disconnects / removing U joints is a pain in the arse.
Used is the way to go if you are somewhat handy and can fix shite yourself....if you ain't you ain't got no business owning a motorhome but many people do not let that stop them. The issue is not only cost, it is time. Getting even minor things corrected at a shop is often times a months long process, especially if you are out of town. It is also extremely expensive. Even warranty work on a new one comes with LOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG lead times.
Here is something to consider. RV spots in reputable parks that are not overrun with meth heads and worse are about the same cost as a moderate priced motel like a Hampton Inn. If you are talking about a diesel model you are still looking at 18 or so MPG. If you are looking at gas you are looking at 4-6 MPG. Compared to say 40 MPG in a Toyota Corolla, for example, and the fact that you can drive the Toyota 80 MPH and the motorhome will self destruct at more than about 65 MPH you can drive the car, stay in motels and save money and spend less time driving.
The only upside to doing it in a motorhome is you have your stuff with you...but that too comes with some pain in the as. Imagine you have just driven from say New Orleans to Atlanta in the RV, say 500 miles. In the diesel model it would take about 9 hours....65 mph, most like have to stop for fuel at least once. Probably $85 in fuel. In the gas model you will definitely stop at least once and it will cost about $150 in gas. In the Toyota it would take about 7 hours and cost about $30. An RV spot in Metro Atlanta is going to cost you about $50 a night....a decent motel in the outside the perimeter will cost you about $100 a night. So you are at $130 for the trip in the car, $135 in the diesel motorhome and $200 in the gas motorhome. When you check into your hotel you can take a dump, a shower, turn on the TV and go to sleep. When you park the RV, even with self leveling and satelite TV you are looking at about an hour to get the thing ready for the comforts of home. You would have more time on the road, more time getting into bed and it would cost you more....the maintenance on the diesel will pretty quickly make it about equal to the gas motorhome.
Its cheaper, easier and more convenient to travel the United States in a small car and staying in motels than it is to do it in an RV. It is not as romantic for certain but you also do not have to dump your shite out of the car every other day.....I would seriously consider this. Why not rent one for an extended trip, say 2 weeks. They are a surprising amount of work to set up and break down even when it is almost automated. If you are also dealing with a car dolly or a transmission disconnect for your toad you are really looking at some serious pain in the arse.
Used is the way to go if you are somewhat handy and can fix shite yourself....if you ain't you ain't got no business owning a motorhome but many people do not let that stop them. The issue is not only cost, it is time. Getting even minor things corrected at a shop is often times a months long process, especially if you are out of town. It is also extremely expensive. Even warranty work on a new one comes with LOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG lead times.
Here is something to consider. RV spots in reputable parks that are not overrun with meth heads and worse are about the same cost as a moderate priced motel like a Hampton Inn. If you are talking about a diesel model you are still looking at 18 or so MPG. If you are looking at gas you are looking at 4-6 MPG. Compared to say 40 MPG in a Toyota Corolla, for example, and the fact that you can drive the Toyota 80 MPH and the motorhome will self destruct at more than about 65 MPH you can drive the car, stay in motels and save money and spend less time driving.
The only upside to doing it in a motorhome is you have your stuff with you...but that too comes with some pain in the as. Imagine you have just driven from say New Orleans to Atlanta in the RV, say 500 miles. In the diesel model it would take about 9 hours....65 mph, most like have to stop for fuel at least once. Probably $85 in fuel. In the gas model you will definitely stop at least once and it will cost about $150 in gas. In the Toyota it would take about 7 hours and cost about $30. An RV spot in Metro Atlanta is going to cost you about $50 a night....a decent motel in the outside the perimeter will cost you about $100 a night. So you are at $130 for the trip in the car, $135 in the diesel motorhome and $200 in the gas motorhome. When you check into your hotel you can take a dump, a shower, turn on the TV and go to sleep. When you park the RV, even with self leveling and satelite TV you are looking at about an hour to get the thing ready for the comforts of home. You would have more time on the road, more time getting into bed and it would cost you more....the maintenance on the diesel will pretty quickly make it about equal to the gas motorhome.
Its cheaper, easier and more convenient to travel the United States in a small car and staying in motels than it is to do it in an RV. It is not as romantic for certain but you also do not have to dump your shite out of the car every other day.....I would seriously consider this. Why not rent one for an extended trip, say 2 weeks. They are a surprising amount of work to set up and break down even when it is almost automated. If you are also dealing with a car dolly or a transmission disconnect for your toad you are really looking at some serious pain in the arse.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:47 am to AwgustaDawg
How I did it 9K miles, there is a cast iron skillet up there.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:50 am to AwgustaDawg
You're paying for the convenience of traveling at your own pace, stopping where you want to stop, staying or not staying, as long as you want.
I don't know any RV'er who claims it's a money-saving deal, quite the opposite really.
We used ours for years and has been the best leisure purchase I've made.
I wouldn't say it's for everyone, but for some it's pretty great.
I don't know any RV'er who claims it's a money-saving deal, quite the opposite really.
We used ours for years and has been the best leisure purchase I've made.
I wouldn't say it's for everyone, but for some it's pretty great.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:54 am to AwgustaDawg
if I were to ever do this....it would be a class c Mercedes sprinter type van. Something easy to drive around everywhere. Not towing another vehicle. That's gonna get real old real fast.
My dad has owned 2 different small Class A Thors and I find them to be junk.
Only reason I would sell my house would be to downsize, but I would want a home base.
But good luck and safe travels!
My dad has owned 2 different small Class A Thors and I find them to be junk.
Only reason I would sell my house would be to downsize, but I would want a home base.
But good luck and safe travels!
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 10:18 am
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:57 am to AwgustaDawg
One more bit of advice. We own a class c gas motorhome. We have a 5 speed manual mini cooper than can be flat towed and I do not connect the brake because it weighs less than a utility trailer that does not require brakes. We have the brake, make it look like its attached for the sake of Johny Law (it is against the law in all states but Arkansas to flat tow any automobile, regardless of weight, without a brake.) We used to have a Honda CRV that could be flat towed but it got totaled and we could not find one that did not have the new style transmission. At any rate we normally drive to the vicinity of an airport or rental car location in town to avoid towing anything....because even flat towing the mini with no brake is a pain in the arse AND it beats the ever loving shite out of the toad....nothing like tooling along at 70 MPH 2 feet behind a massive concrete block on the interstate to frick a car up....at best it will look like it has been sandblasted. There are all manner of things meant to prevent this, all of them add to the pain in the arse factor, they all cost a bunch and they fail to do much if anything.
We also have, over the years, simply driven the toad. Its actually the best answer, especially considering that in a gas motorhome you are going to be stopping for 40 gallons or more of fuel every 200 miles or so and you are not going to be doing more than about 400 miles a day without seriously pushing it (I drove ours, by myself, from Washington State to South Carolina in a little over 58 hours but I wouldn't recommend it). Driving the toad instead of towing it turned out to be our best alternative most of the time.
We also have, over the years, simply driven the toad. Its actually the best answer, especially considering that in a gas motorhome you are going to be stopping for 40 gallons or more of fuel every 200 miles or so and you are not going to be doing more than about 400 miles a day without seriously pushing it (I drove ours, by myself, from Washington State to South Carolina in a little over 58 hours but I wouldn't recommend it). Driving the toad instead of towing it turned out to be our best alternative most of the time.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:58 am to travelgamer
You can drive a car to see that stuff and then stay in a nice hotel room.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:59 am to AwgustaDawg
The alternative to the class c is getting a one ton truck and a fifth wheel camper. You get the benefits of easier maintenance/repairs on the truck and more room/capacity in the equivalent length fifth wheel at the expense of being able to access the living space while actually driving. You still have the ability to leave your camper hooked up and drive around with your separate tow vehicle (although it is bigger than the 4Runner, ours hasn’t prevented us from doing anything). The truck/5th wheel combo will be cheaper than a super C and I’d imagine would depreciate less over time. You can trade in or upgrade the truck and 5th wheel independent of the other.
Either way, there is a lot of benefit to taking your entire bedroom, kitchen and bathroom with you and not being limited to what you can carry in a passenger vehicle. Without an RV, you’ll be eating out for every meal and that gets much more expensive than cooking your own meals. You’re self contained so you can plan your stops, or drive till you’re ready to find a place to park and sleep overnight.
Either way, there is a lot of benefit to taking your entire bedroom, kitchen and bathroom with you and not being limited to what you can carry in a passenger vehicle. Without an RV, you’ll be eating out for every meal and that gets much more expensive than cooking your own meals. You’re self contained so you can plan your stops, or drive till you’re ready to find a place to park and sleep overnight.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:05 am to Jack Bauers HnK
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:07 am to N2cars
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You're paying for the convenience of traveling at your own pace, stopping where you want to stop, staying or not staying, as long as you want.
I don't know any RV'er who claims it's a money-saving deal, quite the opposite really.
We used ours for years and has been the best leisure purchase I've made.
I wouldn't say it's for everyone, but for some it's pretty great.
We have owned a class c gas motorhome for nearly 10 years and have driven it cross country 4 times. We sleep in Walmart parking lots a LOT of nights in ours. Or rest areas or simply on the side of the road out west. It is GREAT for this. It means taking a cold shower usually,....and not using the TV at night most of the time even with a mobile satellite dish.
Stoppin where you want to stop is a relative thing. It is entirely possible to stop anywhere....doing so with full hook ups is often a pretty daunting logistical problem OR you have to be willing to stay in some pretty dodgy places. We never minded the latter so it wasn't a problem for us but for anyone scared to go to Dairy Queen without their pistol they are going to have to stay in RV resorts that are often times more expensive than a hotel in the area....and still require hooking up, leveling, dumping and reversing those when leaving.
Its not for everyone. We enjoy it. Many people jump head long into it and realize it SUCKS for them. There is a reason there are thousands of used motorhomes for sale in Florida every February with no miles on them....
It is definitely not mean to save money. Many people get into it thinking they can save some money. It is entirely possible to live in an RV and save some money, it is not possible to move it every week or more often and save any money....it is a damned expensive way to live.
Anyone interested should plan a trip out west in a rental. About 2 weeks. It won't be cheap but it will give you an idea of what its like. You won't be able to pull a toad most likely and you may not have your shite with you but it will give a fair representation of what its like day in and day out....
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:22 am to BigBinBR
Had a class c, went to Alaska and back. next had a class a for 12 years.
Check the available new/used at PPL Houston. Great place for buyer and ppl will get it for you at 20% less than advertised. They SCREW sellers.
First year of a new purchase will be spent in the shop for warranty work.
get good tires, mfg rating for speed to be verified
be capable of fixing stuff, to avoid the 150 $/hr rv shops
Check the available new/used at PPL Houston. Great place for buyer and ppl will get it for you at 20% less than advertised. They SCREW sellers.
First year of a new purchase will be spent in the shop for warranty work.
get good tires, mfg rating for speed to be verified
be capable of fixing stuff, to avoid the 150 $/hr rv shops
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:23 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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The alternative to the class c is getting a one ton truck and a fifth wheel camper. You get the benefits of easier maintenance/repairs on the truck and more room/capacity in the equivalent length fifth wheel at the expense of being able to access the living space while actually driving. You still have the ability to leave your camper hooked up and drive around with your separate tow vehicle (although it is bigger than the 4Runner, ours hasn’t prevented us from doing anything). The truck/5th wheel combo will be cheaper than a super C and I’d imagine would depreciate less over time. You can trade in or upgrade the truck and 5th wheel independent of the other.
Either way, there is a lot of benefit to taking your entire bedroom, kitchen and bathroom with you and not being limited to what you can carry in a passenger vehicle. Without an RV, you’ll be eating out for every meal and that gets much more expensive than cooking your own meals. You’re self contained so you can plan your stops, or drive till you’re ready to find a place to park and sleep overnight.
A pretty sizeable aspect of doing it in any type of RV is when you are retired you can get spots in national and state parks on short notice during the week and in off peak periods and stay right in the park instead of a motel outside the park. This is fantastic and it is entirely possible. You may have to vacate Friday for the weekend crowd but many highly coveted places are readily available Monday - Friday from about mid August to October and from About March to late May.
There is also the availability of BLM and Land Reclomation and National Forest etc public land that is open to overnight dry camping. This can be in some of the most beautiful areas of the country miles from a motel room. The down side is dry camping ain't for everyone, even in a self contained RV.
There are also a HOST of unconventional RV spots if a person seeks them out. We stayed at an Elks Lodge in Stafford, Texas (SW of Houston, about 30 minutes from downtown) for $15 a night 8 years ago and had a near olympic sized swimming pool to ourselves 22 out of 24 hours a day for 2 weeks around july 4th. We have stayed on farms and ranches and in peoples yards and even stayed less than a block from the Rose Bowl Parade Route on New Years Eve in 2017 and had a helluva party, cooked breakfast the next morning for about 40 strangers and walked 30 feet to our seats to watch the parade prior to heading to the game. Its a blast but it is not as romantic as the brochure makes it look. I would suggest a trial run with a rental at least once.
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