re: Stupid things people say to dieters

i didn't say it had nothing to do with calorie restriction, but is is not as simple as saying "losing weight is 100% about calorie restriction".

there are many doctors and the like who suggest not counting calories and instead limiting carbs and sugars and other insulin producing foods.

Vinnie Tortorich has a good podcast that i usually listen to. He suggests a NSNG (no sugar no grain) approach for all his clients. Granted he is a trainer and not a doctor, but he always has doctors on his podcast advocating the same diet structure.

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there are many doctors and the like who suggest not counting calories and instead limiting carbs and sugars and other insulin producing foods.

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If you're limiting carbs and sugars, you're likely eating healthier and restricting your calories

You can't lose weight without burning more calories than you consume. It is simple

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So keto changes the laws of thermodynamics

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No. It doesn't. But there is more to weight loss than thermodynamics.

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There literally isn't

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Sure there is. If I eat 7000 kcals above maintenance today I am not going to gain 2 lbs.

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you should eat a snickers. fat people get moody when hungry.

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OP, hang in there and keep up the good work.

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what about poop?

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What about it?

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and i'm not saying youre wrong, im just saying there is more to it than calorie in/calorie out.

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From your article:

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UNFORTUNATELY, existing research cannot provide a definitive test of our hypothesis. Several prominent clinical trials reported no difference in weight loss when comparing diets purportedly differing in protein, carbohydrate and fat.

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Dp

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Would love to see research that shows that insulin producing foods are more important than calories

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Books:

Why we get fat - Taubes
Good Calories/Bad Calories - Taubes

Thermodynamic question:

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Calories are only part of the equation

Hormonal response elicited by the food / macronutrient ratio is also very important

Perhaps the most important part we do not fully understand is the effect of of food on the micro biome (gut bacteria). Probiotics ,prebiotics and greens/fiber are vital.

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It is much more complex than calories in = calories out

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There literally isn't

Now there are many ways to skin a cat, but it all comes down to that law in the end

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Our results indicate that the obese microbiome has an increased capacity to harvest energy from the diet. Furthermore, this trait is transmissible: colonization of germ-free mice with an 'obese microbiota' results in a significantly greater increase in total body fat than colonization with a 'lean microbiota'

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What if the obese people have the capability to utilize/store every calorie they injest vs a lean person? Calculating calories injested would not tell the whole story

Keto diets have a positive impact on the micro biome (hence it may appear to violate physics based on your metrics).