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re: Study: MRNA Vaccines Increase Risk of Contracting COVID-19; Each Booster Shot Raises Risk

Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:11 am to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:11 am to
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Umm, if it successfully reduced hospitalizations and mortality in the sickest of our population, then clearly the vaccine is reducing mortality How can you claim to be an MD and laugh at that?


You need to check yourself.

I clearly said it has benefits in certain populations.

My beef is that this vaccine is currently being recommended for healthy 6 month olds and brain dead democrat lemmings are blindly injecting their healthy kids because of “the science”. The study completely contradicts the logic in that recommendation.

I bet none of the doctors in this thread have vaccinated their healthy kids. Why?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:12 am to
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No healthy child has ever died from this virus

You’re a doctor and you’ve never heard of MIS-C? Now I’m skeptical.

We had a kid with that come through our shop last month. Multi organ failure. Survived after coding and spending time on ECMO but is basically a vegetable. At that point I would rather be dead tbh.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:12 am to
I wonder if poster was suggesting Gateway Pundit fabricated the study?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:12 am to
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Honest question. Can you explain to me what I am missing?


You are missing reading the actual study not just the conclusions. That’s why I like this study so much. The authors clearly didn’t want this result and try to minimize it as much as possible in the summary. The actual results show what they found. Go read the results section.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66102 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:13 am to
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We had a kid with that come through our shop


A medical shop? You running a doctors office out a metal shed or something?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:13 am to
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My beef is that this vaccine is currently being recommended for healthy 6 month olds


A parent would be retarded to act on that.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:14 am to
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You’re a doctor and you’ve never heard of MIS-C? Now I’m skeptical.


Yea I have. What is the rate in healthy children? (At the current state of the pandemic where probably north of 90% of kids have already had COVID and we are dealing with omicron)

Hint: it’s a minuscule number. Likely zero.

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We had a kid with that come through our shop last month. Multi organ failure.


A completely healthy kid prior to COVID infection?
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 10:16 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:14 am to
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My beef is that this vaccine is currently being recommended for healthy 6 month olds and brain dead democrat lemmings are blindly injecting their healthy kids because of “the science”. The study completely contradicts the logic in that recommendation.
Were you this adamant for the last 30 years for the same recommendations being used for flu vaccine?

Because it’s “benefits” for that healthy 6 month old is the same

The medical community has always advocated for vaccines that have minimal benefit or the young healthy population in order to reduce overall risk. Acting like it’s new or evil now is to ignore all medical science
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 10:16 am
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29647 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:16 am to
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Just click on the link directly to the study moron. The gateway pundit wouldn’t have to report on it if the media actually did its job rather than be completely captured by one political party.

There is a reason why the media (and medical journals) don’t release non-peer reviewed preprints (many of them are pseudoscientific garbage or poorly designed studies with bogus data). The media is predominantly leftist but JFC your argument is terrible.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7233 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:17 am to
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Just click on the link directly to the study moron. The gateway pundit wouldn’t have to report on it if the media actually did its job rather than be completely captured by one political party.


Oh, the link for this site?LOL


medRxiv (pronounced "med-archive") is an Internet site distributing unpublished eprints about health sciences.[1][2][3][4] It distributes complete but unpublished manuscripts in the areas of medicine, clinical research, and related health sciences without charge to the reader. Such manuscripts have yet to undergo peer review and the site notes that preliminary status and that the manuscripts should not be considered for clinical application, nor relied upon for news reporting as established information.[5]
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:17 am to
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Were you this adamant for the last 30 years for the same recommendations being used for flu vaccine? Because it’s “benefits” for that healthy 6 month old is the same


Show me the study that says a healthy 6 month old who already had COVID is more at risk from COVID rather than the flu. Currently with omicron variants.

Flu is waaaay more deadly. RSV too.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53727 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:18 am to
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There is a reason why the media (and medical journals) don’t release non-peer reviewed preprints (many of them are pseudoscientific garbage or poorly designed studies with bogus data).


Are you claiming the data in this study is fabricated?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:19 am to
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There is a reason why the media (and medical journals) don’t release non-peer reviewed preprints (many of them are pseudoscientific garbage or poorly designed studies with bogus data). The media is predominantly leftist but JFC your argument is terrible.


bullshite. They would release a non peer reviewed study in a heart beat if it showed what they wanted it to. You can’t honestly believe that.

Why is this a poorly designed study?
Why is the data bad?

I’ve authored articles and peer reviewed them. I’m sure you have too.

Let’s do it right now.
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 10:20 am
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:21 am to
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Gateway Pundit


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:21 am to
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I clearly said it has benefits in certain populations.


Yep, the intelligent process would have been to protect and isolate at risk people.

But the Covidians who can't think for themselves just offered blanket policy then screamed at the sky when you balked.

Now those frickers are asking you to forgive them for their stupidity.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29647 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:21 am to
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A completely healthy kid prior to COVID infection?

Yes. Your supposition that no healthy children have died from Covid is a weird hill to die on. MIS-C doesn’t just happen in kids with comorbidities. I’ll agree with you that I would be conflicted on vaxxing my kid or not (would defer to their pediatrician) because I’m not sure the risk outweighs the benefits given that Covid is milder in kids compared to adults.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:22 am to
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Show me the study that says a healthy 6 month old who already had COVID is more at risk from COVID rather than the flu. Currently with omicron variants.
You are talking in all kinds of circles now man

Just how” deadly” is the flu truly to young healthy people? Why as an MD have you sat idly by these last few decades as your medical community urged those young healthy people to get flu shots?
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 10:22 am
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15950 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:23 am to
Not surprised, our local Covid data dashboard by the numbers has long shown that the more you are vaxxed the more likely you are to get Covid. A radio show host here that's big on crunching things has been trying for months to get them to answer why this is and why state workers are still required to be vaccinated.
No reply.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:25 am to
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Your supposition that no healthy children have died from Covid is a weird hill to die on.


I asked you how many. My own belief is that it’s in the single digits or possibly zero. Way less than swimming pools every year. But you can give your opinion.

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I’ll agree with you that I would be conflicted on vaxxing my kid or not (would defer to their pediatrician) because I’m not sure the risk outweighs the benefits given that Covid is milder in kids compared to adults.


I do appreciate your honesty.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:27 am to
And where the frick was strannix and stout in 2010?

My teammate, and additionally a woman on the lsu womens basketball team got guillain barre shortly after our forced flu vaccines we took as athletes

Where the frick were you strannix? Where were you stout? Wawweewawee where were your s the MD to stop these healthy athletes from taking the unneeded vaccine?
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