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re: Study: MRNA Vaccines Increase Risk of Contracting COVID-19; Each Booster Shot Raises Risk

Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:27 am to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:27 am to
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You are talking in all kinds of circles now man Just how” deadly” is the flu truly to young healthy people? Why as an MD have you sat idly by these last few decades as your medical community urged those young healthy people to get flu shots?


Currently the flu is a lot more deadly to a healthy 6 month old than COVID.

Studies showed that almost a year ago 75% of kids already had COVID, omicron is magnitudes less deadly, and even with the original COVID kids were never at risk.

The flu is way worse for kids.

Next question.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29647 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:30 am to
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I asked you how many. My own belief is that it’s in the single digits or possibly zero. Way less than swimming pools every year. But you can give your opinion.

I would rather talk facts than opinion. LINK
This source shows 74 peds deaths from MIS-C alone. It does not break down this number to include comorbidities. Maybe you can find this data.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:30 am to
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My teammate, and additionally a woman on the lsu womens basketball team


You play women’s basketball

What a weirdo

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Where the frick were you strannix? Where were you stout? Wawweewawee where were your s the MD to stop these healthy athletes from taking the unneeded vaccine?


She was probably more at risk from the flu than a 6 month old with a previous infection is from omicron
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:31 am to
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You play women’s basketball What a weirdo
How is your reading comprehension?

My teammate, and ADDITIONALLY

it was two lsu athletes that contracted GB that fall

An lsu tennis player and and lsu womens bball player
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:33 am to
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She was probably more at risk from the flu than a 6 month old with a previous infection is from omicron
What about a 6 month old without a previous infection?

And please show me the data that a 20 year old healthy athlete is at more risk from the flu than a 6 month old is from covid.

Just admit, you are a hypocrite when it comes to the vaccine suggestions as it relates to flu and covid
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53727 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:34 am to


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:35 am to
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when it comes to the vaccine suggestions as it relates to flu and covid


They're not even close to the same thing.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66102 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:35 am to
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why state workers are still required to be vaccinated.


They dont do anything anyway
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:36 am to
we tried to warn em
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:37 am to
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Currently the flu is a lot more deadly to a healthy 6 month old than COVID.


You are a disgrace if you are actually an MD. “ A lot more deadly”

The CFR for both flu and covid is extremely low for both. Please cite you mortality rate data showing the “a lot more deadly” rate of flu over covid
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 10:38 am
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29647 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:40 am to
In general I agree with your posts in this thread but my understanding is that mortality for kids during respiratory virus season is flu>RSV>COVID.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:43 am to
I don’t doubt the mortality rate might by higher. But saying “a lot more” is ridiculous language and similar to that of what the media did with covid “death rate of covid TWICE AS HIGH”

That could mean 1/10,000 vs 2/10,000. That’s twice as high after all….

We are talking 1/1,000,000 vs 1.3/1,000,000,000 type differences when it comes to CFR for these viruses in healthy children.
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:44 am to
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What about a 6 month old without a previous infection? And please show me the data that a 20 year old healthy athlete is at more risk from the flu than a 6 month old is from covid. Just admit, you are a hypocrite when it comes to the vaccine suggestions as it relates to flu and covid


Why are you playing whataboutism?

I actually didn’t think about other random people’s healthcare decision before the government tried to inject themselves in the conversation with COVID.

Go ahead and keep shifting the discussion from the study in question and what is wrong with it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:45 am to
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Do we know that other common cold coronaviruses don’t replicate in other tissues? Have we just not looked?



That's a good question. I don't know, but I will look it up. I brought it up only because of the severe complaints of 'Long Covid' which at least suggests something, although the distinct connection will still need to be investigated.

I think there is a fondness to describe COVID by its initial description, as a less virulent, more infective SARS-1, which doesn't do it justice to the degrees to which its supposed lack of virulence is meaningful. What I mean is that people still get very sick, and even the initial, lowest estimates of its CFR meant that it had direct pandemic potential, precisely because it could achieve an extremely high distribution. And because our population pyramid is tilted towards older age groups, we still need a better vaccine program than the one we have.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:45 am to
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You are a disgrace if you are actually an MD. “ A lot more deadly”


You have no idea what you are talking about. Go back to your cubicle and analyze some more ICD-10 codes.

Stop trying to play doctor.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:47 am to
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That's a good question. I don't know, but I will look it up. I brought it up only because of the severe complaints of 'Long Covid' which at least suggests something, although the distinct connection will still need to be investigated.


And I wasn’t questioning in a condescending way. I do believe COVID is different mainly because it was manipulated in a lab and ACE binding was optimized. I was simply asking if viral presence in other tissues is unique to this virus. Other coronaviruses still use ACE/spike and I’m not sure we would have any incentive to look for their presence in other tissues prior to the pandemic.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111497 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:49 am to
You have proven why my entire job and profession exists. Doctors are great at practicing medicine, they aren’t great at deciphering data and presenting and communicating said data

I have no fricking clue how or why covid does what it does. But I can decipher and stratify data. And that has shown the basic facts below

Covid was never that much of a threat to society as a whole and it was a political weapon (Roger and stout and strannix loved me then)

The vaccine was effective (very much so early on) and not dangerous as whole (and then all of a sudden I become a “covidian” even though I was staunchly agaisnt any and all restrictions)
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:53 am to
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You have proven why my entire indicates and profession exists. Doctors are great at practicing medicine, they aren’t great at deciphering data and presenting and communicating said data


You are only necessary in a bloated system like Ochsner.

I have zero need for anything you offer in private practice.

You haven’t deciphered any data in this thread fyi
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:54 am to
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The vaccine WAS effective


Keyword

I’ll quote cwil for you since you don’t seem to trust me….

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In general I agree with your posts in this thread but my understanding is that mortality for kids during respiratory virus season is flu>RSV>COVID.
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 10:56 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:55 am to
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You have no idea what you are talking about


He's a true believer. The Covidian of Covidians.

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